you barely found that out. I HEARD SCATTERED swallows while SILVER LIKES rubbing al over his smooth chest...:shock:
what kinda bs is that, pac has never and will never fight someone like Hearns, SRR also has less division titles than pacquiao, so??? ha!
If Pac beats Cotto convincingly Saturday night, it may be appropriate to mention Pac in the same sentence as Duran, not better than Duran but equivalent.
if pac beats Cotto, Mosley(in the next year), and Mayweather it may be appropriate to mention pac in the same sentence as Duran. IMHO
atschatsch. pac beat the great mexican triumvirate. em, mab and jmm. beat dlh and hatton. hopefully cotto too.
The wins over Morales have to be kept in perspective, Scatterbrain. Nobody is about to tell me that Erik was near his best, it just wasn't the case. In any event, the win against Marco is flat out incredible, but some people who felt Marquez won the second fight, will most likely hold that against Manny as a result. The Oscar win also needs to be kept in perspective, whereas the Hatton blowout is even more incredible than outclassing Marco at 126lbs. Basically, let's keep things in perspective here.
That is what people seem to not understand. Great fighters are not as great when they just win their first title. Hagler drew with Vito, and then later as champion he destroyed him. Experienced is what Ray needed, and when he had it he easily beat Duran. Also, Duran's win over Ray was not a demolition. He went 15 rounds with a relatively inexperienced guy and couldn't stop him at his own game.
If Pacman beats Mosley and Mayweather, he will have done something Duran never did. Beat multiple great fighters. Duran only beat 3 hall of fame fighters, and they are Buchanan, Dejesus and Leonard. Duran fought many greats, but he did not beat them. Barkley might become Hall of fame someday, but fact is Duran did not beat many great fighters. That is the issue I have with him being top 10 ATG. The facts are not there.
selkill. keep in perspective that pac, jmm, em and mab fought in divisions lower than that of the quartet of srl, duran, hearns and hagler. i agree that the 3rd pac morales match is a bit meaningless but the second morales fight, was a little past it was still clearly competitive. and remember pac is the only fighter to KO the great EM. while duran, srl, hearns and hagler sort of had wins against each other, pac was clearly the most dominant of the 4. I admire duran and in fact the OP highly rates duran being around top 20-30. what i cannot accept and what cannot the OP accept is the some people contention that duran is top 5 atg. how? srl beat him in rematch. hearns beat him senseless. hagler ko hearns. if duran is top 5, where does it put srl, hearns and hagler then?
it is true, Pacman has an excellent resume, and he is doing something which Duran did not do. yeah beating Ray was good, but I think that win is overrated in light of Ray being a little inexperienced. Fact is Ray made Duran quit in the rematch. The usual thing which happens is if a fighter is knocked out the first time, he is knocked out quicker the second time. If Duran wanted to completely prove he beat Ray he should have knocked him out, then there would have been no rematch. But there was and Ray outclassed him, no one but two times after the first fight.
This is like the dumbest infantile shite that I've ever read...seriously. Just because you're Filipino doesn't mean that you have to speak utter bullshite. Some of the worst thoughts on this forum favoring Pac over Duran in any light just pisses me off lol...:twisted::fire
That's a good idea but I don't fighting Mosley will do him any good especially now that he said that he has only 1 fight left. Mayweather is the one that he should fight. That would be the fight of the century. :bbb
It does not come down to how many h.o.f fighter Duran beat that makes him top 5. His skills, his willingness to fight anyone, and his dominance of the lw division for nearly 7 years is what made his bones. Beating Leonard moving up, Moore, and Barkley at age 38 I believe is icing on the cake. Duran is not thoughtof as a top 5 becuase of beating 3 h.o.f's dun.
