WHO IS GREB

He got a newspaper decision against Flowers, for what that is worth.

 

I only listed those fights were there was general agreement among papers that Greb was a clear winner. I believe there was some debate over the 1st Flowers fight.

 

Boxrec has three listed. I knew about the two where Flowers won despite it being close and with disagreement. Boxrec has an earlier newspaper decision that Greb won on August 21, 1924.

 

That's the one I'm referring to. I've read differing accounts of that fight & who would've deserved the decision if there had been one.

I restricted my list to only those fights that Greb either officially won or was a consensus/clear winner among newspaper accounts.

 

Did you get hold of the other news reports ?

That book i read on Greb that mentioned he was ill everytime he lost too im sure left all these reports out aswell

 

Superb, Dorrian. Thanks!

 

I've found this:
Big Battlers Work Out At Top Speed
Dempsey and Miske Give Sparring Partners Lots Of Action in Training Bouts

Benton Harbor, Mich., Sept.2- With only one more day of hard work remaining before Billy Miske and Jack Dempsey ease up in their training for the ten-round bout for the heavyweight championship of the world here on Monday afternoon, speed was the order of the day at both camps today. Champion and challenger alike cast aside all brakes and gave their sparring partners a merry whirl. Both boxers waded through six rounds of real action with the big ten-ounce "pillows", the training gloves.

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-Greb Swaps Blows With Champion-

It was Harry Greb who again today gave Dempsey his stiffest workout. The Pittsburgher was in fine fettle after the excellent showing he made against the champion yesterday. He was full of pep. With the call of time signalizing the beginning of activities, Greb promptly rushed Dempsey. The onslaught was so sudden that Jack was caught off his guard and it took a solid left hook into the body, plied with all the force at Greb's command, which is considerable, to jolt Dempsey into action. Then the fur began to fly.

It was a whirlwind three rounds that these two fighters staged for the edification of the biggest crowd that has yet shoe-horned its way into the grandstand at the baseball park in front of which the ring is built. There were fully 2,000 people present, and they were treated to as much action in those three rounds as is usually crowded into eight of a real bout.

The bout caused the crowd to burst into cheers and prolonged applasuse. In fact, during the intermission between the second and third rounds Ted Hayes, who acts as announcer at the Dempsey camp, was compelled to request the spectators to refrain from urging either of the men to greater efforts.

-Dempsey Slows Up a Bit-

These three rounds were followed by three more against Marty Farrell, another middleweight. Dempsey perceptibly eased up in his work against his second opponent.

Although Dempsey insists that his wind is perfect and that he is not troubled by shortness of breath while working out, to those who have studied him closely it appears as if his wind might be in better shape. He was puffing very hard after boxing Greb. Of course, it was an unusually fast workout, but it seemed to take him longer than it should to recover his wind even after so strenuous a session. By this is not meant that Dempsey is likely to suffer from shortness of wind in Monday's battle.
https://www.harrygreb.com/dempsey_greb.html
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From Tunney:
"Greb gave Dempsey more than a good workout. For three rounds, Greb darted in and out, peppering Dempsey with punches and eluding whatever blows Dempsey threw at him."

Here's another quote from a different page which I found extremely interesting:

"Dempsey, trying desperately for a knockout, found nothing but air with most of his punches. Meanwhile, Greb, so much quicker and faster afoot than Dempsey, peppered the champion with at one juncture with about fifteen unanswered punches. Kearns, realizing that the large corps of sportswriters at ringside were again likely going to write how awful Dempsey had looked against Greb, let the round go for almost five minutes, feeling the Manassa Mauler inevitably would land a haymaker that would knock out Greb. Dempsey never even came close, and, finally, Kearns signaled an end to the round and to the sparring session."

Another quote:

"Greb sought a fight with Dempsey several years later, Kearns said: "The hell with that seven-year itch. We don't want any part of him."
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/a-description-of-the-greb-dempsey-spar.700088/

 

Cheers ive read them before but would skipping
other reports grow the Greb legend even more?

Dont forget they had a few sparring sessions not just one.Why leave the other reports out of HarryGreb.com and the Harry Greb book which was as thick as a yellow pages? They might have been but i cant recall them being mentioned in the book right now or was Adam Pollack the first to find these reports since they were originally reported?


One headline reads

"Greb punished in bout with Champ"
Another
"Greb easily held"

"And the champion without a jab demonstrated the fallacy of that title.For Dempsey affecting the orthodox style of fighting totally abandoning at times his familiar crouch jabbed away with the speed and skill of Jack Britton.He made no real effort to drive home with knockout force but simply displayed the fact that if he wants he can jab in an amazing way.But every jab he sent home jarred his partner"

Another issue with the book was how much of a clean fighter Greb was made out to be when even in one of these sparring sessions he used his head

 

Dempsey didn’t seem to interpret Greb’s butt as intentional, Tommy Loughran said that Greb wasn’t dirty but that his style was so erratic that he would kind of jolt into his opponent accidentally as a result.

 

Perhaps Dempsey was just being nice again? Tunney said he was and once he started the dirty tactics Greb stopped doing them

 

Clueless as usual....back to the general forum for you...who is this guy?

 

Someone who's contributed more worth to this forum in a few months than you have in 2 decades?

 

Marciano stans might be the most corny breed of tha forum bro