Who is higher on your all time list?

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  1. Fury

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  1. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Who is at higher place on your all time HW rank, Fury or Joshua?

    Joshua has the better resume but boxing history will remember Fury as a better fighter imo.
     
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  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ask me in 5 years. I find it hard to place active fighers in all time lists. IMO stuff like that needs time to marinate and a couple of years of inactivity to fully appreciate what a fighter has / hasn't acheived, and the manner of it.
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    At the moment it's Joshua. Due to Fury not having defended a single belt yet, his weak opposition next to Wlad and Wilder, and the fact that he should have been banned at the time he had his career defying win.
    But it's much to early days for a real conclusion.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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  5. iamthegreatest

    iamthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury. Although AJ may have a better resume, Fury has bigger wins in Klitschko and Wilder.
     
  6. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ - Far superior resume and actually defend his world title.

    AJ notable wins - Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev.

    Furys's notable wins: Wlad, Chisora and Wilder.

    There's a massive gulf in resume depth and quality (after their Wlads, AJ has beaten 5 guys more impressive than Furys next best win which is debatable between Chisora and Wilder.)

    If AJ beats the former undisputed CW champ and the best CW ever in Uysk (big if though and I think Usyk will win) then gap i quality and depth of each others resume will only increase.
     
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  7. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Holyfield is the best CW ever, not Usyk.
     
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  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hollyfield is the CW to move up and peform best at HW. However comparing the two resumes at CW it's clear Usyk has by far superior resume.
     
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  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    No he's not.
    He's a greater boxer overall without any doubt due to his HW run, even taking being a blatant cheater into consideration.
    But at Cruiser the gap in opposition and circumstances in which the fights took place, it's clearly Usyk.
     
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  10. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    boxing historians will say fury

    casuals will say joshua
     
  11. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Did Usyk any beat Qawi level fighter two times? He is in goat debate but I can't say that he is undisputed cruiserweight goat.
     
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  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    So, you vote Joshua?
     
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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury now. Joshua if he beats Usyk.
    Furys legacy will fade out if he doesn't get active
     
  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    No, but why would he have to beat them twice? With names like Huck (Cruiser defence record holder, 13 defences), Briedis (3 of the major belts seperate, WBC twice + WBSS winner), Hunter, Bellew (WBC), Gassiev (IBF/WBA), and Glowacki (WBO) -all in their backyards-, on the list, he trumps Holyfield clearly at Cruiser.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither has done squat to even consider this discussion.