Who is Joshua's best win since Povetkin in 2018?

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Who is Joshua's best win since Povetkin in 2018?

  1. Prime Otto Wallin

    24.1%
  2. 283 lb Andy Ruiz Jr.

    58.6%
  3. 39 year old Kubrat Pulev

    17.2%
  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simple question today:

    Who is Joshua's best win since he defeated the 39 year old Russian? Since this victory, Joshua has taken four losses, two by KO. Let's take a look at who we think the best win of the former champ is during this 7 year stretch.

    283 pound Andy Ruiz Jr - Andy was in perhaps the worst shape of his big time boxing career. After this fight he got in much better shape and had life and death scraps with a 40 year old Chris Arreola, a 44 year old Luis Ortiz, and Jarrell Miller. It's not Joshua's fault Andy gained 23 pound of fat in 5 months, but it is shocking that the far fitter Ruiz struggled so badly afterward.

    39 year old Kubrat Pulev - Pulev's shot at the throne ended violently over a decade ago by way of a Klitsckho left hook. Joshua managed to take out an older and slower version without too much trouble. Not a bad win, but ultimately an older, slower version of a guy who was fringe top 10 on his best day long ago.

    Prime Otto Wallin - Joshua destroyed a prime Otto Wallin. Just mopped the floor with him. Otto didn't stand a chance. Interestingly enough, Otto didn't stand a chance against a 41 year old, war torn Chisora either. This was viewed as a great win a year ago, despite Otto never having defeated anyone in the top 25. Some enthusiastic posters even had Otto well into the HW top 10 - very interesting.

    So ESB, which is the best win of the last 7 years?

    edit: I just realized that the very same Chisora of Fury-Chisora III, a widely criticized opponent, has defeated two of the three options here. Shocking.
     
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  2. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    1. Ruiz
    2. Pulev

    Franklin might be better than Wallin as well
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Have to go with Ruiz rematch, but its been pretty poor from AJ since losing the first fight with Ruiz.

    Ruiz - was a little bit of a lucky champion, his level at his best then was a mid to fairly strong contender.
    Pulev - faded a lot by then - mid to strong gatekeeper
    Franklin - also mid to strong gatekeeper who was in his prime then
    Helenius - mid gatekeeper
    Wallin - weak to mid gatekeepr
    Ngannou - Lol
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still Ruiz, despite the terrible shape.

    It does seem that his best days were 2015-2018, but he should get his stale-but-still-big win against Wilder, and when Usyk retires, picking up a third belt is not out of the question. All-in-all, a pretty good career one way or the other.
     
  5. BigStan

    BigStan New Member Full Member

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    Rinsing millions off the public is his biggest victory
     
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  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Chisora chins him
    Kabayel chins him
    Bakole buries him
    Zhang buries him
    Hurgovic gives him hell for leather
    Dubious chins him 9 times out of 10.

    AJ is done. Not even a contendor anymore. They want someone who is low risk but looks respectable and Eddie has no options. Even low power Hurgovic is too risky. They need people who have no power like Wallin and that is not heavyweight boxing right now...funnily enough the only two men without power are Fury & Usyk who are the top crop who he doesn't deserve.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet he's not the one who lost to Ngannou.

    Oh, sorry, won by twelve jabs.
     
  8. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's actually surprising to observe the lack of quality post 2018. Save for Wilder (a name that doesn't marry well with quality), the same is true of Fury. Over-privileged positions. Inactivity. The usual culprits.
     
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  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a bad career, no. It's just shocking to see folks around here hype up a fighter in theoretical matchups whose best in in 7 years is...a jab and move decision over a very out of shape Andy Ruiz Jr.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What matches have they hyped, though? I am a fan and I put him in a similar cluster with Fury, Bowe, Norton, Walcott, Patterson...other guys who had very high high-spots but could not be consistent due to weaknesses of body or character.
     
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  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When you say it like that, it makes AJ's run look pretty bad.

    But it's actually worse than that, because Pulev was not only past it but just coming off Covid too and didn't pull out because he already cancelled previously with an injury. Because of that it wasn't even a legit bout just like the Povetkin v Whyte rematch. These people coming off Covid were absolutely not fit to perform in high-level sport and it's pretty ironic that the board of control had no problem sanctioning these fights while pretending to care about fighter health.

    And the other thing about Ruiz is that he didn't just get fat. I remember his trainer basically admitting that Ruiz wasn't showing up to gym and this is someone that already wasn't showing up enough according to GGG's trainer. So AJ beat probably the worst Ruiz ever seen since turning pro.

    I think what's worse though is that AJ actually could have potentially had a win over Wilder, even Fury, but he became the most protected fighter the world has ever known. He lost his courage, and that's pretty sad.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ruiz easily, rankedn in the top 5
    Then Wallin, ranked in the top ten
    Then Pulev, has been ranked in the top ten.
     
  13. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with most of the rest but Chisora?? At least give him that bro.
     
  14. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz was easily top 5 when they met the second time but why?

    Because he beat Joshua, that's why.

    You can hardly give Joshua additional credit for beating a guy when the only reason the guy ranks so high is because he beat Joshua.
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    aj didn't stop Ruiz either