Who is more important to boxing history. Wladimir Klitschko or Floyd Mayweather Jr

Yes but history remembered the heavyweights when they were good. Now it is just an afterthought. It is not nearly as significant as it once was.

 

21 Ukrainians have voted in this thread.

 

Floydie

 

When a Floyd article is posted on Espn in 2 hours it has over 5,000 comments. When a Wlad article is posted in 2 months it has 150 comments. I'm sure more people will remember Wlad.

 

Why not wait until their careers are over and then make the call? In the US Floyd is obviously more relevant.

 

It's all about popularity. You just mentioned a bunch of comparisons in which the HW division was highly popular in the U.S.

In the 90's when Whitaker was a top 3 P4P fighter, HW was shining with talent and popularity.

That was not the case when SRL, RD, TH were around, they out shined the HW division in their time, with popularity.

In this era, for the past decade or so, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao, and the Big 3 (JMM, MAB, EM) have helped put the smaller weight classes on the map + the help of good American HW's declining. The popularity is now on the 140-154 divisions and it's going to stay that way until the HW division becomes popular in America again, which will not happen unless Boxing starts offering young big guys out of college 6-7 digit pay days in their rookie year of boxing, like NFL, NBA, MLB offers in their first year.

The HW division is dead where it matters, and that is the U.S.

In Europe, the HW division is alive and kicking, bu the only one's who are going to care about the 2005s-present HW division are Europeans, not Americans. Americans will remember Mayweather and Pacquiao from this era, and maybe Broner and Canelo if their popularity keeps rising at the pace it is current rising.

 

Exactly, what's popular in Eastern Europe, does not matter to Americans. They do not care about that, they do not see these Eastern European HW's on their TV screens. When the only way you could be seen here is by illegal streaming, you know you are not popular here.

While these big dudes are attracting 50-70k to buy their tickets, these "Smaller" guys Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Chavez Jr are attracting 500k-1.5Million fans to dish out $50-70 dollars to watch them. Do the math, and figure out who's more popular.

 

Keven Jesus, you're posts are super ****ing arrogant and have nothing of worth to them.

i picked Mayweather. not because he's American, but because it's easy to see who fought and beat the much better quality of opponent. there is a way to put across this argument in a factual and unbiased way. but clearly that is impossible for you to do.

keep your stars and stripes argument to yourself, because it lowers the tone of the forum. please do **** yourself.

 

As brothers the Klitschkos individually Maywaether.

 

Says the most arrogant and biased Euro/English. Poster. Ignore this idiot. Another dude who cannot be unbiased and will be a douche. Put him on ignore. I shall do that from here on out.

 

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You think Wladimir ranks higher in the stacked HW division than Floyd does ATG at SFW?!?!

Polls show that you are in an extreme minority. In order for that to be true, Wladimir would have to be one of the two or three best HW's ever, because I've never seen Floyd ranked lower than 3rd at SFW... ever.

And Floyd was only at 130 for about 3+ years.

Nice try to discredit a fighter you clearly are bias against.

 

Wladimir Klitschko, 3rd tier before 2005-2006 or so, important? Maybe to Europe. Sorry, Germany. ) Wlad is not even top 30 all time in his division. Btw, Vitali was more talented in his prime.

 

You might not like the math I do because it assumes a person is a person regardless of where they're located. It's not the odd philosophy you seem to prescribe to that states foreign popularity plays no role in history because it has to be in America to count. We used to have a monopoly on heavyweight history. Not anymore. It's unfair to take our ball and go home and claim it's not historically significant because it's Wlad doing it in Germany and not Larry Holmes doing it in Atlantic City.

Wlad doesn't just sell out 50-70k stadiums. Germans knew Pianeta was a bum, so 3 million fewer of them watched Wlad's last defense.

Thing is, that still left over 8 million watching it. That's just in Germany.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Global/Issues/2013/05/06/Media/rating.aspx

Here's some of his other ratings, listed on page 1:

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=416288

Again, that's just Germany. For defending against a guy who wasn't near Guerrero's level.

 

Both are great, and two are than one. Some many sneaky racists here.