Who is more over rated ? Amir Khan or David Haye ?

haye by far

 

What makes you think he has a better chance?

His speed? He is very fast.

His jab? Good offensively, none existent defensively.

His judge of distance? He doesn't have any.

His balance? He doesn't have alot of that.

His footwork? It's terrible for someone at this level.

His variation? He doesn't have any.

His heart? He has plenty of heart.

His adaptability? He has little.

His ring IQ? He doesn't have any.

His inside game? He doesn't have any.

His ability to fight forwards, and backwards? He can't fight backwards.


I never try to hate against Khan on this site, but it's posts like yours that drive me to. He just isn't as good (yet) as many think he is.

 

By his performances against people with similar style. (Judah and Mcclosky)

Not just that he won, but he annihalated them. He overwhemed them He shows no respect for the shouder roll. he just comes right over the top.

I think mayweather will figure khan out and beat him because khans not ready yet.

But i'd 100% give khan a better chance than cotto against mayweather.

Khan struggles against presure fighters, But if gets to a fight at range which he will against mayweather. Well i've never seen khan lose a round when its fought at range.

Who wins between Cotto and Khan? I'd pick cotto in that one.

 

They are both very much the same, but no one ever called Khan the "Savior of Heavyweight Boxing" in a division void of excitement and had the single fight/opportunity (vs Wlad) to finally prove/live up to it.

you do the math...

 

Khan is overrated and it a lot of it spurred from how quick he's looked against fighters like McCloskey and Judah. Just overpowering them when he just moves in and throws real wild punches. Nearly got floored by Maidana, Alexander beat Maidana, lost to Peterson despite all the shite and here he was only a few months ago saying he would fight Mayweather and Pacquiao.

 

Here's another person overrating Khan's long range ability. If Khan's long range is so good, why does he struggle with pressure fighters?

Also, he did very well against Judah, especially against the southpaw style. He looked horrible against McCloskey, McCloskey made him miss A LOT. Khan did not annihilate him at all. If McCloskey made him miss that much, what will Mayweather do?

Cotto v Khan - Khan will have success early on, mainly due to speed. But I think Cotto will start getting to Khan and hurting him, especially to the body.

 

Means **** all. Khan whitewashed Kotelnik who handed Alexander his butt.

 

Its easy to make you miss when you don't throw back.mccloskey lost every rounds.

To answer your question on the pressure fihters. Is there a correlation?

Maybe he has troube controlling the pace and keeping it at his range. But against mayweather the fight will be fought at range so it won't be an issue.

He'll still lose but he got a better chance that cotto.

 

Khan is more overrated by far.

 

No it's not. McCloskey is not even close to Mayweather in terms of defense, this is shown in virtually every one of his bouts, except the Khan bout. McCloskey may not have offered much back, but he made him miss a great deal of his punches. Mayweather would feast on Khan's offense.

There is a correlation. If he was so good at range that a couple of people claim, whether he can cope with pressure, or has trouble keeping his head or not...if his long range was that good, he would still be able to keep a pressure fighter, or compete with any current boxer at long range. But he can't, because his long range is overrated. If you LET him fight at range without offering much back, he can look like one of the best long range boxers in the world. But if you don't let him fight at that range, you can stop him fighting at that distance.

Mayweather is a great long range boxer. He can fight at range going forwards or backwards. Whether someone charges him or not, he can and does dictates the fight at long range. Khan is not capable of doing this. A huge difference in their abilities at that range. So anyone who claims Khan can compete with Mayweather at that distance needs to watch both boxers more.

Disagree.

Cotto's lateral movement, all-round better game, and power may offer Mayweather some resistance. Khan will have his jab and gameplan taken away from him in a round or two. You will most likely see Mayweather walk Khan down early. Most future Khan opponents will pressure Khan now, or at least try to force him on to the backfoot, or get him on the inside.

 

Kahn is more likable and humble - Haye made a fool out of himself against little Klit. Most potential in Kahn.

Haye was way overrated.

 

Floyd would place hard precision punches on Khan's chin...Khan would not make it past 5 and he would lose 4 of the 5 rounds before being put to sleep.

 

Oh no :yikes If someone "almost got floored" he must be crap.

 

good answers tbh.

And i agree that a good outside game, should stop fighters getting inside. And the fact that khan lacks this quality it wont matter against mayweather.

I still think he's got the height reach and speed to give floyd fits early on.

nd i don't think that's overrating him. He just happens to have a style that could do that.
He's not versatye and he's horrendous on the inside but against an ageing Mayweather, the one amateur style he does have is the one style that can trouble floyd.

I still pick floyd to win though.

 

Both are underrated.

Kahn takes on the topdogs and always makes a fight out of it. He is thick, but it's the kind of thickness that makes him believe in his greatness and trying to prove it. Good for us boxing fans.

Haye steamrolled the cruiserweight division with a perfect KO record, save the slip up against Thompson. He breezed through four heavies, and was actually able to cause one of those genetical freaks bros some stress.