Who is more over rated ? Amir Khan or David Haye ?

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  1. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    1. What does this sentence mean? that isn't even an attempt to troll at the fact you wrote a word what doesn't fit, I actually don't know.

    2. Neither is Haye, he got in the ring with Wlad didn't he?

    3. Adamek is a terrible Heavyweight, he should go back down, he don't have any of the things you listed.

    4. Only a punchers chance and no boxing ability doesn't make you win 25 out of 27 fights, seriously.

    5. Haye makes excuses like ****, but at least he won a round or two against a Klitschko.

    6. Both are boxers. Haye could be an underwear model purely because of his bulid (no homo)

    7. All your points are fiction

    8. Not everyone will agree with you.

    9. Yes Haye is a clown.
     
  2. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Polish fans consider Adamek vs Vit a failure(although i didnt have expectations of him winning anyway)

    English fans consider Haye and Chisora's performances as some kind of success.

    You guys truly are desperate.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    The problem with your technical breakdown is, the very first point.

    Khan does not have good, balanced footwork. He has fast footwork that enables him to drive in and out of range...but his footwork is a major downfall in his game.
     
  4. Slacker

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    1. Should say Adamek was a better HW RESUME than Haye, which he certainly does.

    2. Haye is a complete coward who is always looking for the easy way out. Its not even open for debate. Adamek on the other hand jumped right in the ring with Arreola (who would beat Haye's ass) and Vitali (who would certainly beat Haye's ass).

    3. Adamek has more technical ability in his little finger than Haye has in his entire body. However, from reading your response, you have no idea what that means.

    Here are some examples.

    - Balance. Haye is constantly off balance. He throws one punch at a time because of this.

    - Footowork. The main goal of good footwork is to be keep the fighter on balance and have the ability to move if needed, while maintaining that balance. Obviously, Haye has no concept of this.

    - Proper punching technique. Again, this is about balance. When a jab is thrown properly it sets up the cross/straight. When the cross/straight is thrown properly, it sets up the hook. It is nearly impossible to throw these three punches in combination...with meaningful power...if you don't have proper balance.

    As you can see, Haye has none of these things going for him. He has a crude "one haymaker at a time", lunging and darting style.

    Wlad, on the other hand, has textbook perfect form and balance...likely because he was a world class trainer and Haye has a clown training him.

    4. Cherry picking helps tremendously here. As in "Duck Wlad for Vitali, then duck Vitali for SNV, then lose most of the rounds and get gifted a decision. After that, talk **** for years and fight Audley ****ing Harrison in the mean time.

    Get the **** out of here with that bull****.

    5. Haye was completely embarrassed by Klitschko.

    6. Adamek is a boxer because he posses skills. Haye is a fighter/model who has big muscles and occasionally shuts his face and gets into the ring.

    7. Watch the tapes. All of my points are completely true.

    8. Everyone outside the UK certainly agrees with me.

    9. Haye is an unskilled, embarrassment to the sport.
     
  5. I heart Amir

    I heart Amir 23|1|26|1|1 Full Member

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    How can Amir be overrated?

    Amir has beaten MAB, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Maidana, Judah and arguably Peterson.

    Haye's resume is considerably weaker. The worth-mentioning fighters he has beaten are Mormeck, Maccaranelli and Valuev.

    If anyone is overrated, it is Carl Froch. Froch has only beaten Pascal and Abraham.
     
  6. RJD88

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    I do like both but Khan is more overated. He does have a lot of skills and potential ability but people often talk about him with the iew in what he could be rather than what he is currently. The results dont match up so far to justify talk of a fight with Mayweather etc, he could change that if he puts away Peterson in style this time but his progress seems to of stagnated.

    Haye is what he is, some people love him, some hate him but he justified some of the rating in his cruiserweight campaign. As a heavyweight perhaps he is overated but i think its evened out by those that think he's ****. I do think he would put away a number of the top 15 heavies BUT he wont do that, I wish he would. If he put up say 3Ws against ranked contenders he would regain some respect from those that have lost it and also find new found respect from those that currently doubt him. Could lead to another crack against Wlad for big dollars or in the position to justifiably clean up the titles after Kbros retire. There's a snowballs chance in hell of this happening, if that.
     
  7. Elliot

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    1. To be honest, becoming a world champion no matter how poorly it was done > Anything Adamek has or will ever do in the division.

    2. Haye would beat Arreola, sorry but you gotta be kidding if you think otherwise, Vitali would beat everyone but Wlad.

    3. So because Haye isn't a complete tit who thinks he can box properly against men outweighing him by 40+ lbs like admek he has no technique.

    4. And every single one of Adameks wins have not being cherry picks because he is from poland right? forgot hen you don't like a fighter he cherry picked everyone, the only complete cherry was Audley Harrsion, and that man doesn't have a *****.

    5. No one is saying otherwise, since when do polish take claim to Ukrainian Germans?

    6. Adamek is a decent boxer, Haye is better, one of these men was a world heavyweight champion,

    7. All what tapes? I've seen enough of both fighters to know who would win, because adamek would be the slightly smaller man Haye wouldn't fight with one punch at a time.

    8. Bull****, if Haye didn't say anything about his toe most of the world bar Poland and some other European countries, would agree he is better than adamek.

    9. Fixed, now I agree :good
     
  8. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Hayes more overrated. I seriously doubt people would have thought Amir Khan has any chance against a superior boxer like Mayweather. People actually thought Haye was a lot faster than Wlad, and as soon as he landed a big punch. Wlad would go down. Didn't happen, Wlad countered Haye all through the fight and completely shut him out, without even getting his glass jaw tested. Not unless you count a weak ass flurry in the 12th round, which is greatly exaggerated. And Adamek is a even bigger bum. Holyfield in his prime would have beaten these 2 overrated cruisers today, and in the same night.
     
  9. BeaverDan

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    Neither are over rated. But Haye.