Who is more powerful- David Tua or George Foreman

In terms of pure force? Absolutely.

But George had some skill, he brought some serious pressure, could think his way out of a jam...Tua would just blast away till somebody fell over.

I'll put it this way. Tua needed his bombs on Maskaev and Oquendo to happen. George Foreman rallied against Lou Savarese and Crawford Grimsley and they DIDN'T hit the canvas. He was also capable of a Moorer one punch late.

But George didn't hit like Tua at all. Different kinds of power. One can stop you in a single punch, the other can hurt you, punish you, and run you over. George rarely stopped guys in one shot, he blew them away with devastating two fisted attacks(Even old George, see Cooney). Different kinds of power, different kinds of fighting.

George was stronger though, I can tell you that. Heavier jab. Heavier power, you felt it more the more it hit you. 10 jabs from George and your face goes numb. His right hand and his hook had a similar effect. Just punishing. It hurts, cows you. His hands are like freaking tennis racket heads. Tua's left hook pops your ear drums, though. Right up the with the right hands Wlad and Lewis were hitting me with that made everything fuzzy and made my legs jelly. George hurt me every punch, but he never rocked me or put me in trouble, which the other three did. On the sum, I'd much rather spar them than him for that reason. Just different kinds of power. Big muscles, huge hands, tons of commitment, no speed, vs. All legs, speed, sharpness, and drive.

It's just different.

 

Tua is slightly overrated

 

Awesome insight Magna :good

So from all of the people you've worked with and people you've spoken to who seems to be at the tipy top in terms of power? Wlad? If I recall in another post you said from everybody you worked with it would seem that Morrison had the hardest left hook?

 

Holyfield actually used Tua as a sparring partner for the first Tyson fight

Theres a video of it on Youtube

 

Tommy Morrison hit somebody(Razor Ruddock) the hardest I have EVER seen somebody get hit live. And I have been at a lot of fights. Freaking trip hammer left hook, and it sounded like a gunshot had went off.

It was many years, until Darnell Wilson's highlight reel hook, that I've seen a shot like that again.

I didn't really ever get to work with Tommy for any notable period of time. Little bit in Vegas when we were there with common purpose, little bit shortly after the Bentt fight when I was just hanging out. He was crushed by that upset, man.

Still, there are different kinds of power. Morrison and Tua had a different kind of power than George Foreman, and you use that kind of power in a different way.

 

wouldnt you agree that foreman likely had more "one punch" turn out the lights power in his first career, and even early in his second career.


Watching him....it has always looked like as he got older he lost some of that snap...the snap that really knocks guys out..but still had the weight and general power.

 

In general speak Foreman is not hardest hitting heavyweight,Earnie Shavers is.Foreman was big strong guy but he would not hurt you with single punch like Shavers.

 

:huh

 

More than Tua? No, I don't think so. More than his second iteration? Yes, probably. Though the older Foreman looked like he had even more weight behind his punches to compensate for the drop in speed.

 

Absolutely. Young Foreman punched through your head. Late 80's George still had a bit of snap and speed, and could open up and let physics to the damage.

The slower your get, the harder it is to throw with true power. You can compensate with muscle, tightly closed fists, and hips with effort, and looping your punches for some momentum, but really, once the speed and the sharpness goes, your power largely does.

 

Sparring is a totally different thing. Did anyone see Foreman spar with Cooney? George didn't load up at all and was obviously working on ideas,
not trying to throw his hardest shot.

 

^Excatly, you cant judge power based off sparring sessions.
You dont even go 100% or throw with the intent of a knock out.

 

So what you're saying only corroborates what I've been saying all along.

Foreman has the more "painful" punches from the looks of it too ... his punches literally "hurt" more than others and inflicted damage ... Tua's left hook is more powerful overall in the sense it is more forceful.

I'd assume that Tyson's power was more of a shocking type of force ... he was a better KO puncher because of the velocity that he threw his punches at ... compact, quick, and powerful

 

Tyson's power seems to be underlooked these days. Sickening power in both hands.

 

It all depends on what the boxer is trying to do. Tua was probably loading up in the sparring. If George just started putting everything he had into powerful hooks he would have hit just as hard or (more than likely) harder than Tua.