Who is P4P #1 right now: Terence Crawford or Naoya Inoue

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Who is P4P #1

  1. Terence “Bud” Crawford

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  2. Naoya “Monster” Inoue

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  1. Melankomas

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    No need for the back and forth. It's dead simple. If you truly believe that Spence looked healthy and ready for combat, then you'll put your mother's good name behind your statement.

    But we know you won't just like the group of 10 or so other people who ran away because they know the truth.

    ;)
     
  3. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    No, not 7 pounds, 10 pounds, which is the equivalent of 14 pounds proportionally to a 150 pound fighter.

    Naturally bigger, not naturally bigger, the point is that Donaire was good enough to win titles from 112 to 126. He was good enough to win titles and beat legitimate, top rated fighters when he was fighting. Donaire himself was rated #3 pound for pound at his peak. He was fighting and beating the best people in multiple weight classes, and often knocking them out.

    He went 3-2 before Inoue- in top level world title fights against world level opposition

    He went 2-2 after Inoue, including vs Inoue and all in world title fights.

    The first time they fought he was only 36. He was older, but he showed before and after their initial fight he was still at the world level easily by KOing reigning champions. He lost the first fight to Inoue 4 years ago. See how great Terence Crawford is at 36 vs 40. You probably won't even be able to because Crawford will likely retire (which is the right move) before 40.
     
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  4. DirtyDan

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    Donaire started his career around the Super Flyweight limit aka 115 pounds while Frampton started around the Super Bantamweight limit aka 122 pounds, 7 pounds. I'm not arguing against you that Donaire is a legitimately great fighter, I followed his career since the 1st Vic Darch fight back in 2007 for the IBF Flyweight title. He was already old and on his way out when Inoue met him though, moreso in the 2nd fight, 36 is absolutely ancient below Lightweight due to the lower weights depending more on athletic ability and reflexes but Donaire still had power which is why he was able to knock out these lesser Bantamweights who couldn't take his punch because that's all he had. Once you could take his punch there's pretty much nothing an old Donaire could do though and fighters before Inoue and Santiago already figured that out.
     
  5. JOKER

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    Inoue went up to a new weight division and destroyed the consensus #1 and undefeated unified champ who was the bigger man. He even abandoned his traditional way of hand wrapping to ensure that the fight would go through and he still smoked the boy from Philly like he stole something.

    Crawford fought... a terminally-ill lookin' Spence who looked like he wouldn't even be able to make it to the ring.

    GTFOH.

    :lol:
     
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  6. Braindamage

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    He looks no diffrent than his last fight with Ugas.
    You brought my mom up, shows your class by the way or lack thereof, and I'd bet my mom, son, daughter and grandson's life, that if Spence beat Crawford in a similar manner, and was touted as #1 P4P, you would be on here showing your little videos of Crawford looking bad, and repeating how Crawford was drained and how he did not make weight. Inoue's resume speaks for itself, no need to discredit another man to pump up your boy. Dude has a valid argument for being #1, no doubt. But so does Bud.
     
  7. JOKER

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    Don't get it twisted, son. I'm sure your momma's a fine woman and I made no judgements about her.

    I simply put you on notice to see if you actually believed the BS you're spewing and YOU CLEARLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT SPENCE WAS HEALTHY AND FIT FOR COMBAT.

    That's it, sir! You're leaving!

    You told me EXACTLY what I knew you would tell me.

    Ciao.

    :)
     
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  8. drenlou

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    110-48. I think ESB has spoken.
     
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  9. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Inoue moved up 4 pounds after unifying a weak division to take on a guy with 20 fights and 8 knock outs, sorry I'm not impressed. An old frail decrepit and weight drained Crawford who missed weight knocked out the unified champion and top 5 p4p fighter Errol Spence easily.
     
  10. JOKER

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    Spence was deathly drained, though. Oh, you're still ignoring that.

    :lol:
     
  11. ellerbe

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    Bro what’s wrong with you?
     
  12. Braindamage

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    I don't know how you know what I believe from what I posted about Spence, other than, I think he was ready and Crawford still whooped him. I don't have it twisted. I believe Spence was no diffrent from his previous 4-5 fights.
     
  13. DirtyDan

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    Spence looked extremely lean, confident and in shape, moreso than in his last 2 fights against Garcia and Ugas, he even made weight the first time around unlike Crawford.
     
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    Crawford never missed weight. Social media rumor.

    There's a reason (7 reasons) why Spence wants the rematch at 154 with no belts on the line.

    I'll let you figure it out.
     
  15. JOKER

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    You don't believe that just like you don't believe that Spence wasn't drained. Stop lying and just be honest.