Who is the “Tavern Brawl” “Street fight” “Straightener” GOAT here on Classic? What’s your case?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    They’ve got to be pro boxers with reasonable careers you don’t get to pick say Fedor Emilanko if he had one boxing match lol. The recent Green fight has me curious… I’m tipping it’s likely Dempsey or Sullivan? one was essentially a professional tavern brawler at one point, both partook and both knew how to grapple. Just a bit of fun. Each staged fight is held on a generic street with little obstacles, besides obviously a hard floor to bump your head on and potentially die lol. Each “match” is an unarmed straightener in generic street wear.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It has to be Maske.

    /thread
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I don't think we know enough to be able to tell who the best is.

    There's almost zero footage of any elite boxers in streetfights. And even if there was, I doubt we'd learn much.

    If we're artificially precluding them from using either purpose-built weapons or hitting each other with pool cues and bottles, all we can say is:

    It might make sense to favor guys who got into real streetfights (and won) over those who haven't.

    Bigger is probably better. Meaner is probably better. Being a violent criminal is probably an advantage.

    The guys with grappling training, or other MMA-like things, may do better.


    So guys like Liston, Sullivan, Dempsey, Tyson (only guy on the list who beat another pro boxer in a streetfight, as far as I know), Rahman, Cobb, etc. No way to tell beyond that broad generalization, IMO.
     
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  4. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Nah, guys from the Sulivan era knew how to work it bare handed and could just rag doll George through the pavement, for similar reasons Jack Dempsey would kill GF in the streets.
     
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  6. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah cos George never had a street fight…
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    He can’t wrestle he’d victimised by those that can.
     
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  8. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zivic has to be up there. He got in more street fights with his brothers growing up than he had in the ring.
     
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  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Figg probably breaks the thread's rules and starts sabering people. So maybe he's the barfight champ.
     
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  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Bill the Butcher Poole probably cooks all of em
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Larry Holmes had a gorgeous drop kick off the top of a car as his finisher.

    Nothing says ‘street fighter’ like a guy who jumps people off car tops.
     
  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Nah Larry’s handicapped here I specified there are no obstacles otherwise he’s the GOAT.
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Chuck Wiggins & Bobby Gunn

    Jack Dempsey & Billy Conn
     
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  14. Seamus

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    He was also a very good wrestler in high school. And he had a legit mean streak.
     
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  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I think most people here are under the impression that grappling isn’t the apex predator of single combat, Liston for example would lose to Bud Crawford in a fight IMO.
     
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