Who is the #2 cruiserweight of all time?

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  1. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    Holyfield is the clear, consensus #1 but who is the 2nd best cruiser & why? (Post 1980 fighters only please)

    Is it DeLeon, Nelson, Qawi, Haye, JC Gomez, Adamek, Jirov, Mormeck, Bell, Wamba etc...
     
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  2. lufcrazy

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    Evander Holyfield
    David Haye
    Carlos De Leon
    Steve Cunningham
    O'Neil Bell
    Jean Marc Mormeck
    Tomasz Adamek
    Marco Huck
    Orlin Norris
    Dwight Qawi
     
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  3. Mr Butt

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  4. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Blimey nelson got a mention that surprised me
     
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  5. dyna

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    Holyfield behind Haye. :D

    Maybe Qawi?
    He certainly was the best with the tools he had.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

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    it's certainly a very shallow division. I think Haye, Bell, Mormeck have to be in the mention for unifying all the belts.

    I reckon Sugar has to be there for his long run at the top.

    I reckon Cunningham has to be there because at one point he'd owned victories over the top 5 ranked guys and every belt holder or something daft.

    But after that anyone can be argued really.
     
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  7. DrMo

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    No love for Gomez or Nelson?

    How do you rate them Luf; is it H2H, resume or a composite of both?
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    Gomez was around a while but I don't think he was ever number 1. Nelson might have an argument if I bothered to watch his bigger fights but his style is too displeasing.

    I rank on a system where I tier them on an achievement/resume composite then rank in that tier on h2h.

    So I've split them like this in tiers:

    Evander Holyfield

    David Haye
    Carlos De Leon
    Steve Cunningham
    O'Neil Bell
    Jean Marc Mormeck

    Tomasz Adamek

    Marco Huck
    Orlin Norris

    Dwight Qawi

    and each tier is ranked in h2h order.
     
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  9. DrMo

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    Cool:good

    I think Gomez is one of the better cruisers but his competition was fairly poor. Nelson deserves credit for defending his title in so many countries but I can understand why some (most) dont like his style.

    Toney & Jirov are good H2H but didnt achieve as much as others did.
     
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  10. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    johnny nelson ha. had a long reign as champ
     
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  11. Seamus

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  12. Rex Tickard

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    Funny enough, I just rewatched Holfield-Qawi I earlier tonight. I think a fair case could be made for Qawi as the #2 cruiser champ all-time.
     
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  13. TheSouthpaw

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    Id have to rank Qawi right under Holy..Im a big fan!
     
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  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That would be my vote as well!
     
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  15. DREAMCATCHER

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    Some u missed:

    Ralf Rocchigiani
    Orlin Norris
    Vassiliy Jirov
    Krzysztof Wlodarcyzyk
    James Toney
    Guillermo Jones
    Carl Thompson

    Gomez was an exceptional CW, Toney ducked him.

    Chakkiev is the future...

    This content is protected
     
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