Who is the 3rd ranking Scottish boxer of all time?

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Scotland had McGowan at Fly, McCormack at middle and Calderwood at light-heavy, at one point ALL 3 of them in the world's top 10 and Gilroy coached & trained them all.

 

even though Martinez is rated the best SFW in the world at present? by the way tracey paterson was a 2 time world champion and scott schooled him aged 22 in madison square garden no mean feat

 

Ok, Ismael Laguna was the best Lightweight in the world at the time. He on film looks a lot better than Martinez IMO and has much better wins like over Carlos Ortiz & Mandos Ramos to name two, and they are both alot better than Nicky Cook. Also Lightweight then was a much stronger division than Super-Featherweight is now.

I agree the Patterson victory was a really good one, I just dont think Patterson is as good as Ruben Navvarro.

 

He's second in the Ring's list:

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/jr_lightweight/

And my God, but the SFW division hasn't looked this bare in a long, long time. I mean Mzonke Fana is their No.1?!?

 

No1 on boxrec

 

Boxrec rankings :rofl

 

Well I'd certainly put him above Fana and the rest of the South Africans in that division who like to pass the belt around between them.

But you've gotta admit that its an absolute ****-poor division in world terms.

 

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Here's Fleischer's All Time Flyweight Ratings

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I'm not sure what year Fleischer put this list together but as he died in 1972 the list is still at least 40 odd years old.

Considering its age it's still remarkably accurate. As we know Fleischer favoured old timers and that means some of his lists are well out of date. Take a look at his last heavyweight list for example:

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The heavyweight list was out of date when he wrote it and in

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reckoning it looks very biased to the old timers. The same can't be said of his Flyweight list.
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rke I don't think he would be anywhere near a modern list and probably would miss out on a top 20 place.

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ts I put him in the same company as Patterson and McGowan although both the latter two won the title which elevates them slightly above Clarke IMO.

As for Benny Lynch........he's was a bit more special. If he had kept a lid on the bottle he could have been up there with Wilde at the top. A very sad story, finished boxing at 25 and was dead of malnutrition a drunken bum at 33.

 

Mcgowan

 

Strongback great stuff, thanks for that. You should check out the Classic forum you would be a very welcome addition there.

 

Thanks GPater.....I'll check out the classic board