Who is the best 100 percent english fighter of recent times?

just like yer Royal Family!

I think I am going to enjoy chipping in on this thread!

 

are ya ****! Jesus was born in a stable it didnt make him a horse!

Nationality and ethnicity is not a simple as where you were born you dopey squaddie ****!

 

Nationality is a simple as where you are born in most cases.

 

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Andy Lee - both parent Irish, born in England, grow up in an Irish community with Irish culture, family moved back to Ireland as an early teen and fought for Ireland at the Olympics, holds an Irish passport and considers himself Irish.

But accord to you he is.....?

Just shows how stupid this thread and those attitudes are.

 

It's not a stupid thread, it's a fair question. The fact is that a lot of the best British boxers do not have British roots and I'm not talking about tracing their roots back generations either.

 

agreed

natonallity should be in the opinion of the individual not what other people say !!

 

Fair point - immigrant communities usually had to fight for their very existance and had limited opportunities to "Progress" and therefore consequently produced a lot of fighters.

It never cease to amaze me that at the moment every French fighter seems to have a north African or central African name.

 

The way I see it your nationality should be dictated by where your parents came from, your actual blood line not your place of birth.

 

or every french footballer for that matter !!

 

i think it depends on the individual tbh

some would say there english others would say otherwise

 

Yeah you're right, I was doing research for an article on Champions per Capita a while ago, for the purposes of the article it was easiest to count where a person is born as their nationality but it's not always as simple as that.

 

I know what you mean, using Lee as an example, he grew up in England but had Irish parents so I suppose he has the right to choose whether he see's himself as English or Irish but ususally it's your blood that will determine how you see yourself.

 

Ernie's whole identity was that of being a fighter - he had no identity once the fighting had to stop. His very last fight came here against John H. Stracey (stopped in seven). He began roughing it but would occasionally return home but then went missing for 11 years until he was found in a homeless shelter in Texas by a private detective. Danny Lopez (his younger brother, of course) came through the end of his career because he has a very strong wife and enjoys his job in construction.
That picture would have been taken in the last few years of his life because he looks very smart. When he was truly roughing it he looked like Nick Nolte in "Down and out in Beverly Hills".

 

Say my parents went on holiday to Spain for example and I was born premature out there. I'm pretty certain that I couldn't pass myself off as Spanish. The place of birth argument could be the last factor in deciding a person's nationality.

It should be off the your parents nationalities mainly unless they had moved to a particular country before you were born and then stayed there. Then of course it's a different story.