Who is the best American heavyweight right now?

There is 333 Current USA Heavyweights

The countries on top of the heavyweight division are Ukraine and the UK. Ukraine has just 28 current Heavyweights, and the UK has 66.

 

Boxing and Basketball require completely different types of skills and attract different types of people. A fighter will want to fight. It's really a non-starter as an excuse. It's unbelievable how anybody can five this excuse the time of day

How I'd imagine most Basketballers in the ring, is the same as how I'd imagine most Football (soccer) players in it

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Comes in cycles.

Europe/UK are on top at the moment. This could all change after a decade.

 

after the skelton, williams, harrison carousel of my youth...we have been rewarded upon high with domestic boxing that has actual quality

 

Absolutely

 

Sigh….

NFL net worth is $142.87 billion for all the teams. By simple calculation, each NFL team has a value of $4.47 billion on average.

30 NBA teams combine for $74.4 billion in value for 2022. This is the third year in a row where the league's net worth exceeds $60 billion.

Sources linked in & Forbes.

I am not familiar with your rugby leagues or I would do a net worth comparison - I’ll wait for you to provide with sources the net worth of those leagues.

does it compare to to 217billion dollars of revenue in 1 year?

that is what I mean by big heavyweight athletes having way more lucrative options then just boxing here $tateside.

 

interesting

with baseball waning in the U.S but becoming a monster of sporting attention global

Is the next great american Center Fielder going to go into NFL or NBA?

because by that rational we could argue that the monopolistic clubs of MLB are not devloping american stars. yet those clubs are all hoveirng around $5 billion.

 

we are specifically talking about Heavyweights
I left out MLB because NFL / NBA are more attractive / lucrative options for the BIG fellas of Heavyweight boxing.

 

Cant believe people are saying Michael Hunter. Have you guys seen his last fight against Chaney? Chaney barely threw a right hand and Hunter was not impressive against him. Hunter was a decent HW 5 years ago.

All these people were hating on Big Baby Miller, now all of a sudden hes the best American? Man some of you boxing fans switch up quick.

I would say its still Wilder. He lost to Parker and Zhang top 5 HW's rn. No shame in that.

 

What in the ever loving **** does a sports leagues revenue have to do with it? lmfao.

The only thing that matters is the AMOUNT of athletes in the sport. American football does not actually have a particularly big talent pool. Also one thing that conveniently gets ignored when we talk about the pay is the NFL is basically the only league that pays well, and careers are shorter there than just about any other sports league. If you arent in the NFL as a football player what are you doing?

I just told you America has 5x as many HW boxers as for example the UK which is completely in line with it having around 5x the general population of the UK too. Meaning per capita the UK is not putting a larger amount of its population into HW boxing than America is. I also told you that basketball and ice hockey are major pulls for HW sized athletes in many countries. The best players in the NHL arent Americans. I know jack **** about current NBA but googling "best players in the NBA 2024" takes me to some season leaders list where 4 of the top 5 arent American and the one American was actually born in Cameroon. Also like I said rugby is the predominant sport for HW athletes in several countries including places like the UK and Australia that are hotbeds for producing fighters.

Basically, its all excuses. In reality the most likely reason for all this is back in the days of American domination the sport was just heavily centralized in the US which created certain advantages and biases for US fighters. Then the iron curtain fell which opened the floodgates to an absolute hotbed of talent and maybe simutaneously globalization decentralized the sport and opened up more channels for international talent to come through. Like I said the UFC, which was considered super American, experienced this phenomenon very abruptly as soon as it started to expand itself into an international league

 

all this 'athletes' stuff is nonsense. You're talking like they'd excel in anything they choose like it'd be a walk in the park.

They will be Basketball players OR boxers. Not Both. If they are good enough they will probably be good enough to earn money at one, and not more than one, so that's the one they will choose. It's rare for someone to reach the top in two completely different sports.

 

A league’s Revenue is in direct proportion to how much capital its franchises/ teams have to lure talents to their cities & leagues.

I stated factual #s to support my “mental gymnastics “. Where are yours?

 

athletes is what they are regardless of how big they are.

if you were a 6’ 5” 300 lb guy who has a. Choice to make huge guaranteed money in the nba or in the nfl why on earth would they choose the way of boxing to potentially possibly turn a profit
In a disorganized unregulated sport- it’s common $ense don’t overthink it.

 

And yet American football, like I said, doesnt have a large talent pool, and its also a talent pool almost entirely confined to a single country. So in reality the revenue and pay isnt having that effect.

You are so wrapped up in the American sports bubble.

 

you are proving my point
If the talent pool is all confined to 1 nation (my nation)
With over 142 billion in Revenue a year
Then It is much more lucrative worthwhile to pursue for an athletic Big man then boxing with far less competition is it not?

please by all means burst my American sports bubble & enlighten me on the revenue of your Rugby leagues…