Who is the best at 168?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by David Fanning, Apr 11, 2010.


  1. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    So Bute is in second place in the poll, when he's not even taking part in the super middleweight tournament.

    :think
     
  2. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carl Froch is the man at 168

    Until someone beats him
     
  3. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    As of right now, ESB has Dirrell 5th, which we all KNOW is inaccurate. However, I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the people who voted Ward have Dirrell a close 2nd.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yea that's probably right. However I voted Ward and have Bute 2nd and I'm sure a couple of people have it like I do.
     
  5. Lynchburg

    Lynchburg Guest

    Bute, Ward or Froch... but pnly because Jermain Taylor wasn't an option!

    Lynchburg
     
  6. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Understandable, no doubt. But even if Dirrell isn't 2nd, come on ESB, he's not 5th.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Froch fans are using the excuse you have to go by record or some bull**** just so they can have the illusion that Froch is a top fighter.

    Anyone with any sense knows its a combination of Ward, Bute and Dirrell as 1,2,3.
     
  8. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Much credit to you for that one. You're part of a dying breed.
     
  9. Imperial1

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  10. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    According to ESB:

    1. Ward
    2. Bute
    3. Froch
    4. Kessler
    5. Dirrell
    6. Abraham

    All tremendous fighters. Like I said....DEEP!
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Who'd pick Dirrell to lose in a rematch against Froch? Who'd pick Dirrell to lose against Kessler?

    Bias pure and simple.
     
  12. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dirrell wouldn't beat Froch. Dirrell probably wouldn't beat Abraham either.

    Dirrell is a good boxer but what makes you think they wont adapt to his limited boxing technique and running? The point is Dirrell looked better against Abraham and he still didn't finish the fight, and thats all that matters.

    He won but he didn't finish strong and this psychologically makes him damaged goods as Froch said.
     
  13. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    How ANYbody can have Lucian Bute ranked any higher than ANY of the Super Six competitors is out of my realm of understanding. Edison Miranda is going to knock Bute out in 6 or less, watch.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol: He did beat Abraham dope. As for Froch, you really think Froch finishes that fight let alone beats him? he got a gift against a green Dirrell. How's he gonna beat a Dirrell that actually has experience? Dirrell beat Froch from pillar to post in the 10th 11th and 12th, showing he gained confidence knowing Froch wasnt a strong puncher. Why would that change in a rematch?

    Because Froch cant adapt. He's slow, unccordinated, nearly skill less and has gotten by on being bigger and stronger then his opposition. There is nothing in Froch arsenal that suggest he could adjust. Hell his only adjustment to beating Dirrell the first time was to foul and body slam. And he still got rocked several times.

    Abraham is defensive orientated slugger, he wont change. What he's gonna try and box with Dirrell? :rofl

    So you're basically saying that it doesnt matter that the foul was illegal, that he hit Dirrell when he was down and undefended, thats all that matters. :rofl


    You say stupid things, i can tell you're a froch fans. Your words match his style. Slow, stupid and uncoordinated.
     
  15. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I thought you were being sarcastic at first, but you appear to be serious. Froch seems like a nice guy, I'm sure you are too, but you're both very, very, VERY wrong.

    To some, Dirrell DID beat Froch. And why wouldn't he beat Abraham (besides the fact that he just did)? Is it because Abraham's improving and Dirrell is diminishing? I thought it was the other way around to be honest with you. Dirrell's technique is limited? Uhhh...NO! It is diverse, blinding, and confusing. If they could have adjusted to it they would have! What the hell are you talking about? And what the hell does any of that have to do with Dirrell not finishing the fight against Abraham? Do you realize how that fight ended? Abraham's the one who didn't finish. All that matters huh?

    As to Froch's "damaged goods" theory....Dirrell improved quite substantially in his fight with Abraham compared to the one prior, with Froch, and improved in the exact areas he needed to. Obviously not damaged goods. More like improved goods. You're about ten years too soon with that claim, and about ten beers past your limit with that post.