Who Is The Best Black Heavyweight Never To win the Crown?

Earnie Shavers is the most overrated heavyweight on this board. about half his win list conists of tomato cans with losing records and his best scalps are either hasbeens or green horns like young. His comp was no better than Gerry C00ney's, and Gerry never lost to men like Ron Stander or Bob stallings, so if we're honest he should rate higher.

 

Top 50 Black Heavyweights never to win the Crown


1. Harry Wills
2. Sam Langford
3. Peter Jackson
4. George Godfrey
5. Joe Jeanette
6. Sam McVea
7. Elmer Ray
8. Jimmy Young
9. Ike Ibeaubuchi
10. Archie Moore
11. Razor Ruddock
12. Harold Johnson
13. Zora Folley
14. Eddie Machen
15. Jimmy Bivins
16. Cleveland Williams
17. Ron Lyle
18. Earnie Shavers
19. Clarence Henry
20. Leotis Martin
21. Bob Baker
22. Nino Valdes
23. Lem Franklin
24. Renaldo Snipes
25. Lee Q Murray
26. Bob Satterfield
27. Denver Ed Martin
28. Tiger Jack Fox
29. Kid Norfolk
30. Larry Gains
31. Ross Purrity
32. Carl Truth Williams
33. Turkey Thompson
34. Mac Foster
35. Tony Thompson
36. James Quick Tillis
37. Thad Spencer
38. Doug Jones
39. Tyrell Biggs
40. Roscoe Toles
41. Hurricane Jackson
42. Jose Luis Garcia
43. Eddie Chambers
44. Harry Bobo
45. Harold Carter
46. Calvin Brock
47. Jack Trammell
48. Jeff Merritt
49. Roy Tiger Williams
50. Al Blue Lewis

HM: Jameel McCline

 

Don't do that. Shaver blasted away Norton and lost a razor close decision to Ali.

He looked like a better version of Povetkin against Larry Holmes and Povetkin is one of the best guys around today.

Sometimes Shavers looked terrible but when he was on , he looked fearsome with fast hands and feet.

 

How come you left out guys who won a portion of the title?

 

@suzie q Ross purrity is way too high on that list

 

Still "Too Quick"....

 

She loves Wlad.

 

I know how hard it is to have your brain in every era at the same time, but I will throw a few more names out there:

Old George Godfrey
Frank Childs
Bob Armstrong
Bill Tate
Battling Jim Johnson

 

So you're saying Gerry C00ney is the best black heavyweight to never win the crown?

Shavers knocked out Young, Ellis, Norton, Bugner and he nearly defeated Ali and Holmes.

C00ney was supposed to fight Bugner and pulled out. C00ney was supposed to fight Shavers and pulled out. And C00ney never came close to beating Holmes.

Oh, and C00ney wasn't black. There's that, too.:good

 

I think if you knock a guy out early in one fight, and you knock him down and he manages a draw in a rematch ... that it's safe to say you are the better fighter than the guy you've dropped in multiple fights and stopped at least once.

Believing the other guy who never won "might" turn the trick later is wishful thinking.

Mark Breland got knocked out by Marlon Starling (after leading him most of the way) in the first fight and fought to a draw in the rematch. And when his trainer Lou Duva told Larry Merchant that Breland and Starling should fight a third time, because he thought Breland would win, EVERYONE laughed at Duva.

I know what Young did with Lyle and Foreman, but Shavers was better than Young. He proved it in the ring.