Who is the best boxer Wlad has ever beat?

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  1. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has to be one of these: Peter, Brock, Chambers, or Chagaev.


    The Nightmare, the Banker and White Tyson were undefeated at the time if I'm not mistaken but I may be wrong
     
  2. Fan88

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    I think a good way to rephrase this would be like if Haye went vs Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter, Brock, and Chambers, would he go 5-0?
     
  3. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Some interesting fights. I've never seen Brock in a fight he won, but the others are all hard to call. For some reason I'd love to see Haye-Ibragimov, its a shame Iggy has been inactive for so long
     
  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    If Ruiz can jab Haye, you better believe Wladimir can.. If Barrett can knock Haye down, you had better believe Wlad can..

    It is still the best match up that can be made, but it isnt like anyone is saying they think Haye will decision Wladimir, it is still people banking on the excitement of Haye landing that one punch..

    I want to see Haye - Tua, haha.
     
  5. Joe

    Joe ♦♣♥♠Slowhand♦♣♥♠ Full Member

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    No, not a chance in hell...
     
  6. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Corrie Sanders...wait,no ,he got KO by sanders
     
  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    If you look closely, you'll see it was actually by Sanders' golf club. I wish they'd review that tape again. Maybe overturn it. That's completely illegal.
     
  8. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not one damn fighter Wlad has fought is better than Haye.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    At the time when Wlad fought them.

    Ibragimov
    Peter
    Chambers
    Thompson
    Byrd
    Chagaev
    Brewster II (definitely knocks Haye out)
    Brock


    I would take them all over David Haye to be honest. The only ones that I would give Haye a decent chance against that group would be Brock. I honestly think that Iggy would dominate Haye... as would Chagaev. The in shape Peter that Wlad fought would walk him down and put him out. Brewster would either take him out early... or easily weather the storm and take the stamina challenged Haye out later in the fight. Chambers, Thompson, and Byrd would simply outbox him. I give the edge to the undefeated Brock that Wlad faced as well.

    I also think that Povetkin (Who Wlad hasn't fought yet) would batter Haye, tbh. I gave Haye his credit for what beating Ruiz. Let's face it though... beating a 38 year old Ruiz who was already incredibly beatable in his prime isn't a huge accomplishment. Neither was his horrible performance against Valuev that I actually thought Valuev may have won. He definitely did worse against Valuev than old Holyfield did. After rewatching Haye vs Ruiz... I came away actually shocked at how sloppy Haye is. He is going to get into some SERIOUS trouble against a real top heavyweight that can put him out. He hasn't fought even a decently hard hitter yet at HW. Let alone a top HW with a serious skill set to work with. He beat Barrett after Barrett had already been knocked out in 2 rounds by Couser. We already went over what happened with Valuev and Ruiz. Ruiz has only won 3 of his last 8 fights and is only getting older and worse everyday. His only 3 wins in that 11 fight span were against Otis Tisdale who is 25-23-1 in his sparkling career, a horrible version of Mcline, and Adnan Serin (19-11-1). That is John Ruiz' only victories in over 5 years! The fact that this man keeps getting a title shot is ****ing amazing to me.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Injury ravaged?:lol: Brewster had previously injured his eye, which was 100% healed well before the fight ever took place. Brewster himself admits this... it's sad that you guys still can't. It's a ****in eye man... you can either see properly or not. He could see... it was 100% recovered and his vision was perfect. So... how exactly is that "injury ravaged"?

    You are wrong... it was the same exact Brewster that he had fought before. It was a different Wladimir Klitschko.
     
  11. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol:
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Byrd, who was MUCH better than Chambers prime for prime.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    It is kind of funny actually. That all of those guys would beat David Haye, yet so many people buy into his hype because of what he says in media interviews. Funny... but sad.
     
  14. kirk

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    I think Chagaev is Wlads best opponent and best win, I would actually pick Chagaev to be more then competetive with Haye if im honest, I think Haye would have good success early on but that Chagaev would start to close around the 6th, 7th rounds and start laying leather on haye quite effectively, and i think he takes control and maybe scores a knockdown along the way. Not quite sure who gets the decision, it could def go to Haye because he has that presence and imposes himself, but Chagaev would do plenty in the fight and an upset (if it would even be considered an upset) is as likely IMO as a Haye decision win.

    That being said, i think Haye poses a bit more actual THREAT to Wlad then Chagaev did....

    I think the Peter that Wlad fought gives Haye PLENTY of trouble, people saying Haye wipes his ass with him are overrating Haye so much lol. Ruiz coming forward getting hit with everything just went 9 rounds with a prime Haye.... but Hayes going to stop a young, in shape Peter? Doubtful, ESPECIALLY considering that Haye would be too smart to get into a slugging match with Peter, he would use the ring, distance and timing to catch peter coming in and pot shot him from the outside while doing his best to stay mobile and elusive. Hes not going to sit there banging with Peter like a Tua or Ike would, or even how he did with Ruiz as times, but yet hes going to beat the **** out of Peter?

    Highly doubtful

    That being said, i def think Haye would outbox Peter and win a decision, in fact id make him the favorite.

    I rank Haye above Brock and Thompson without a doubt and think he would beat both of them as well clearly IMO.

    I think Brewster is also quite a nightmare for Haye, a big, strong, explosive pressure fighter who can end the fight in one punch and willing to weather the storm to land it....
    Id favor haye no doubt, but dangerous, dangerous fight IMO.

    I think a prime Byrd would also give Haye plenty of problems, Id favor haye but it wouldnt be easy and he damn sure wouldnt dominate Byrd the way Wlad did. I think Birds combos and speed would serve him well this fight, but that Hayes power and strength would give him the edge in many of the rounds with the judges, and i think it would be a close decision for Haye due to him imposing himself a bit more in the fight.

    I also think a fight between Haye and Chambers would be highly competetive, Chambers IS fast, but would favor Hayes power to, much like the byrd fight, prove to be the deciding factor with the judges and he gets a clear UD (not as close as the byrd fight)


    Just IMO

    *As for Sultan, i simply havnt seen enough of him to judge really
     
  15. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    has to either be byrd, sultan, or chagaev. we all know how peter's career turned out.