Who is the best, ever?

Nope, not even close.

Floyd is far better and greater than Joe is and I like Joe. :deal

47-0 :deal

 

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I argree about roy he was in a league of his own in his prime. But his resume and wanting to do things on his terms stop him frm being at the top for me . Ali was like roy but his resume blows him alway. Robinson well he is robinson . Floyd is not in that league. Leonard and duran i rank about level tho duran is my fav fighter. Back to roy simply im not saying hes at the top but at his peak i never seen anyone better.

 

The greatest P4P is Ray Robinson without question. Ali is the best period.

 

A lot of people confuse the best with the greatest. Greatness is based on accomplishments. Roy Jones may well have been the best fighter I've ever seen in his prime, but he is most certainly not the greatest.

 

you can only fight the best of YOUR particular era.

before losing to tarver, roy had beat NINETEEN current, past and future world champs...NINETEEN! Including toney and hopkins and winning the world hw champsionship. that put him in a separate category from anybody.

mayweather has beaten 20 current, past and future world champs....these include oscar, shane, corrales, canelo, cotto, etc. the only other guy who compares is rjj.

sweetpea whitaker beat a lotta good fighters including chavez, dlh, mcgirt and nelson.

to me, either of those guys would have beat srr....

 

SRR andddd END THREAD

 

Yes, I agree Floyd has a tremendous skill that no one possess, he was really a one of a kind, imagine this kind of skill he has, he only need to knock out one opponent every fight, but it's the audiences are the one been knocking out by Floyd. :dead

nice skills :hi:

 

When exactly was he scared of Prime Joe Calzaghe?

Was it when he was ploughing his way through world champions at 175 and winning HW titles when Joe was fighting Karbary Salem down at 168?

Was it then?

 

Who was better, Whitaker or Jones?

 

why do u try to push ur agenda in all of these threads? floyd is the best or one of the best technical fighters on film. the only people who think other wise are blinded by hatred. :rofl

 

"Iron Sugar" Ali "The Bodysnatching God" Raymi "The Greatest of All Time with Terrible Hands of Doom and Devastation"

 

Depending on what you mean by 'best' you could make a case for

Sugar Ray Robinson
Harry Greb
Hank Armstrong
Sam Langford
Muhammad Ali


We could look at resume (wins and losses and quality of opponents) longevity, weight ranges, distintcive records held etc.,

We could use the eye-test. How skillful and durable did the guy look and based on that, and what he actually did, make an assessment.

I would use a combination of these two, with more emphasis on resume than eye-test.


And using this blend, I would probably pick Robinson for his amazing record at welter and middle, and an almost amazing win at Lt heavy. This, combined with how he appears in the available video, puts him at the top of my list.


Greb's record is, if anything, even more amazing and so a case could be made there. We can't use the eye-test with Greb as I don't think there's any film of him in an actual fight. We have to rely on eye-witness testimony.

Armstrong held three undisputed titles in three weight classes spanning five of todays weight classes SIMULTANEOUSLY !

So he merits a consideration.

Sam Langford fought greats from welterweight to Heavyweight and though losing to an ATG heavy in Jack Johnson, made a sufficient scrap out of it that Johnson was forever shy of a rematch. For a 5 ft 6 in man who was a welterwt, that's something !

Finally Ali. By any standards, in his own right, and on the criteria I mentioned, he would probably make the top 10.

If we think "who, in his prime, and on his best day, would beat any other boxer in history, in their prime and on their best day ?"

I would pick Ali.


So to recap, Sugar Ray Robinson.