Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Austinboxing, Jul 15, 2021.
Clearly. It’s clear to see.
Men in white coats are on their way to you.
RJJ embarrases Tunney.
Foster KOs him.
Charles KOs him.
Moore KOs him.
Spinks outboxes him.
I doubt Foster would beat Tunney.
You’re comparing a guy who beat Dempsey to a guy who beat Quarry’s brother.
I don't have Tunney as the best LHW, but you can't deny that he looks great on film and that he'd be a handful for any fighter at that weight.
No he don’t. Ain’t none of those look good on those ancient grainy black and white film which makes them all looking weird with their herky jerky movements
Sorry you’ve lost me. Nunn didn’t fight Hopkins or Jones?
Nunn would always cause Kalambay problems no doubt, besides the lucky punch. In fact at that time, being a tall southpaw, Nunn was pretty much unbeatable. I don’t see anyone beating the Nunn who faced Tate, with the potential exception of Nigel Benn early (and possibly Kalambay).
I don’t see anyone beating the Kalambay who faced McCallum, with the exception of Duran on points and possibly Nunn outworking him on points.
You're exposing yourself.
Kalambay sparked by Nunn. Nunn sparked by Toney. Nunn was a level below Toney, Hop and especially RJJ.
RJJ with intent stops Kalambay. Hearns, even at 154, could spark Kalambay. SRR of Valentine's sparks Kalambay. Hagler, who outpointed the Duran you mention, beats Kalambay.
There is nothing on Kalambay's record to rank him over Hagler and Monzon and I am certainly not going to use one or two fights only to do so, otherwise Buster Douglas is arguably the GOAT HW and never loses to Holyfield. Oh wait ...
Doesn’t quite work like that I’m afraid young man. That’s called never watching boxing.
Nunn took Toney to the cleaners without fighting his usual, most effective style. And Kalambay was ‘a level above Nunn’ (using your nonsense word terms) if you compare both their fights with Barkley.
Tarver was a level above Roy Jones, didn’t you know?
Douglas was a level above Tyson and that means Holyfield was two levels above Tyson.
Also means I live in my Moms basement.
At the end of the day Nunn was declared the mythical ‘pound for pound #1’ after the Kalambay fight by KO magazine, and boxing was stronger in the 80s than it was in the 90s.
If you can't adjust your feeling from old videos with limited frame, then maybe. I've seen enough old films to understand the difference in film and what was captured.
Dempsey was past his best. Plus the long count
He has two wins over Dempsey and a win over Greb.
Foster had limited opposition at 175 and fared horribly against any decent fighter even marginally above that weight.
There’s no way I can objectively favor Foster over Tunney.