Who is the best fighter throughout history you pick Marciano to beat?

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Mr Kool

    Excuse how do I think Marciano was immortal?

    My rankings of him all time are very impartial and fair, number 7 all time heavyweight, and I pick many modern big heavyweights to defeat him
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Master boxers always miss punches (even the most accurate guys like Mayweather). I don't get your point.



     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I think if Marciano had such poor skill and defense, He would have lost to Charles Walcott and Moore by wide unanimous decisions. even against the old versions
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Sometimes a great offense is the best defense, especially when you have ATG conditioning and stamina, the better chin, and a great edge in power (and age, but we'll leave that one out of this).

    His defensive skills were fair--nothing to write home about.


     
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    He wasn't on Marcianos level yet fought holyfield past his prime twice and clearly more skilled overall than Marciano...who would win?just watch his first fight with super tough Holyfield,who was unbelievably durable at that weight/fast and extraordinary combo/counter puncher...what would the slower Marciano have to offer other than harder shots that Qawi took from foreman for 7 rounds?...And Marciano is no super Hw puncher like people wish to believe,if that was the case he would have no competition with the likes of Starza and company.The hard truth is qawi would be Marcianos toughest opponent win or lose.He actually is better than Frazier because I think his chin was better,andd I don't believe Marciano is better than Frazier for other reasons.
     
  7. uncletermite

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    Would be interesting,though I believe Marciano catches him and k.os him like he would to Louis.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Does someone want to remind me who was the best Qawi beat at heavyweight? Mike Hunter?

    He was a non-entity in that division.
     
  9. choklab

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    No, "The hard truth" is you are the guy who went on record saying ...
    Because you are on record saying "I dismiss every heavyweight before Ali" it's not really fair to remark on people you already dismiss out of hand is it?
     
  10. uncletermite

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    so by your comparison being Holy went thru hell with the not so good Qawi ,I guess Holy wasn't that good himself,being most considered him the greatest Cruiser weight ever?Have to disagree and well video footage disagrees with you too,Qawi extremely underatted,someone whis around 5'6 and a former light heavyweight that can be winning against a super giant like foreman proves my point exactly.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Went through hell at heavyweight? At heavyweight, Qawi beat nobody. Using him as any kind of blueprint for a heavyweight is ridiculous. You might as well use Dave Jaco for that purpose.
     
  12. uncletermite

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    Were not comparing HW's were doing Marciano at 185...what does that have to do with anything but me comparing an actual dangerous 230 plus pounder in foreman which clearly wins my argument.You seem to forget all of a sudden that Qawi at 190/200 is the topic.The nmore logical question is can Rocky if hes more skilled keep up with a cruiser Holy or 230 plus foreman...I doubt it!and that is an opinon ..I think Marciano gets crushed by foreman and totally out classed by a cruiser Holyfield...that's just me!
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Foreman absolutely spanked Qawi. Watch the damn fight. It was never in question. This revisionist sh*t that Qawi was forcing any issue is just ridiculous. Foreman was never in danger. Qawi was always in danger. Qawi got spanked. End of story.
     
  14. uncletermite

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    I don't have too,the scorecards before the stoppage had qawi winning the fight...because he was!Again arguing with actual footage and someone who actually studies the fights.you are right in most posts I see,not this one!Yes the end of this story its proven by FACTS!And believe me ALL my posts are.
     
  15. Seamus

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    WRONG. Foreman was ahead on all three scorecards...

    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-03-20/sports/sp-2348_1_george-foreman

    Foreman walked down a fighter he knew he would walk down in the crudest fashion and finished sh*t as he knew he would. It was an absolute foregone conclusion. I've seen many a scrub win a few moment of a few rounds against much superior fighters, walking off script so they thought only to get finished. Foreman knew his pace and finishing skills. Qawi was never... never...in that fight.