Who is the best Northern irish boxer ever?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Matty lll, Aug 5, 2012.


  1. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wasnt sure if jimmy could be counted since he left at 3yr old.


    Of course we'll claim him if we can:D
     
  2. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im not trying to oversell him but he was the irish, british, european, commonwealth, and world champion when he retired. Not a bad achievement by anyones standards. Won and lost against the likes of terry allen and jackie paterson
     
  3. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what I was thinking when I looked him up, although can we really claim him? I mean he grew up in Canada and that is where he learned to box :think
     
  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    look, as far as ATG boxers go, we are pretty thin. Im sure the boys here wouldnt begrudge us a claim to at least 1, no matter how shitty the claim is:D
     
  5. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its settled then, we'll take him :lol:
     
  6. TBooze

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    The UK (England) claims Fitzsimmons on birth. Lennox Lewis is another * having learned to box in Canada. So I think you have a claim.
     
  7. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha ha ha! True. Then you have the UK world champs that WERENT born in the UK like Maurice Hope and Charlie Magri.

    Ive always classed Lewis as english to be fair
     
  8. Surf-Bat

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    Not the greatest, but Jimmy Warnock is one of the better fighters from the north of Ireland (born before 1922). He had the "Indian Sign" on the great Benny Lynch, whom he beat twice (something no one else ever did)


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  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Point of correction, the province of Ulster did not split from the rest of Ireland, only six of the nine counties did.
    Furthermore Monaghan was one of the three that remain in the Republic to this day, so McGuigan is not from Northern Ireland.
     
  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Semantics. Such a small country we shouldn't even ask about the North and South and simply compile a list for the whole of Ireland. But regardless, in spirit of the question, I would also add in Bunty Doran who beat among others: Jackie Paterson, Theo Medina, Jimmy Warnock, Stan Rowan and Norman Lewis. Also there was a fighter whom my predecssors always referred to as 'untouchable'. Such was his defense. That was Billy 'Spider' Kelly.
     
  11. doug.ie

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    i'm late as usual.....was going to give a speech about rinty monaghan.
     
  12. Surf-Bat

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    Ike Weir. The Belfast Spider.

    Though NI didn't technically exist back then.

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  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You think that it's semantics wheather you live in the North, ie Aintrim, Armagh, Down, Derry, Tyrone, Fermanagh or the Southern Irish counties of Donegal, Monaghan or Cavan?

    Paddy Barnes, with two Olympic medals in this ultra-competive era plus Commonwealth and Europen Golds is hard to argue against as best amature.
    Pro? well McLarnin would be my number one if you include him (and I would) but Monaghan has a shout and two guys maybe not mentioned yet, Dave Magill and Dave Boy McAuley.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Rinty was f'n class.
     
  15. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Matt, I wasn't being insulting, I simply meant we're splitting hairs by recognising someone maybe a couple of miles one way or another, much like you recognising a Jimmy McLarnin who was a child when he left and never donned a pair of gloves until he was in Vancouver. I have no problem recognising McLarnin's lineage but I think a better list would comprise the whole of Ireland and that's including McLarnin.