Who is the better knockout artist, Deontay Wilder or Artur Beterbiev? (regardless of weight class)

It's not an agenda. They both ended their amateur careers as heavyweights.

One turned pro and defended against 270 pounders.

The other turned pro and defended against 170 pounders.

Sorry, the weight bully isn't getting my vote.

And Beterbiev doesn't have a jock, because he doesn't have any balls.

When he grows a pair, maybe he'll try to challenge himself ... although, Beterbiev is supposed to fight Fanlong Meng next, while Wilder is fighting Tyson Fury again, so I won't hold my breath.

I can't even come up with a name of the last guy who competed at heavyweight in an Olympic games who freaking ran down to 175 afterward, like Beterbiev did.

And that line about Callum Johnson might qualify you for worst post of the day. (Seriously, don't be an idiot.)

 

Oh please. Beterbiev was the #1 rated amateur heavyweight in the world when he lost in the World Championships quarterfinals to Usyk in 2011.

And when Beterbiev lost to Usyk in the Olympics in 2012, Usyk was the #1 rated amateur heavyweight in the world.

They stated that on the broadcasts. Don't act like Beterbiev was in over his head. He was rated the top heavy in the freaking world.

Wilder was never the #1 or #2 rated amateur heavyweight.

Go back and look at all the #1 rated amateur heavyweights in the world in the history of amateur boxing. How many moved down to light heavy after the Olympics, other than Beterbiev? Did Frazier? Foreman? Mercer? Bentt? Ibragimov? Anyone?

Even guys who failed to make the team. When Tyson failed to make the Olympic team at heavyweight, did he turn pro at light heavy? When Tommy Morrison failed to make the Olympic team at heavyweight, did he turn pro at light heavy? When Michael Dokes and Greg Page and Marvis Frazier didn't make the team, did they turn pro at light heavy?

I thought Usyk was a coward for going after the easier belt at cruiser. And least Usyk didn't dry out to light heavy for weigh-ins.

Wilder has more stones than all of them. And he's the best knockout artist. When Beterbiev actually stops a professional heavyweight, let me know.

Who is the better knockout artist between Wilder and Beterbiev (with his 15 KOs against 170 pounders)? Give me a break.

Beterbiev-Usyk 2011

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Callum Johnson is an underrated boxer with solid skills, he is explosive and a big puncher. He was prime when he fought Beterbiev, they were the same age. Compare that to 39 year old Stiverne and 39 / 40 year old Luis Ortiz, the best fighters Wilder knocked out. There is no doubt in my mind that Johnson is a significantly better win than fat Stiverne or grandpa Ortiz.

Like Serge already said, Beterbiev still weighs 187 lbs on fight night, he didn't weigh more than that when he was an amateur, unlike Wilder who weighed 200 lbs as an Olympian, and now he weighs much more. Artur is a big light heavyweight (just like Gvozdyk he beat) but he would be a small cruiser, his frame is already maxed out. Don't forget the difference between LHW and cruiser is 25 pounds.

 

Beterbiev was the #1 amateur heavyweight (the 200 pound division) in the world nine years ago.

Wilder was rumored to have entered the ring at 208 for the first Fury fight, having lost weight after the weigh-in, and was told to gain weight for his next fights by everyone after that.

Don't act like Beterbiev couldn't fight at heavyweight. Beterbiev dries out to make 175, because it's easier than fighting heavyweights. He's up around 200 when the bell rings.

That's the whole point.

Beterbiev, who could easily be a heavyweight, but he chooses to feast on smaller opponents. And even doing that, he's only got 15 kos against light heavys.

He is in no way, shape or form the better knockout artist.

Not in the least.

I get why he cuts weight. But Wilder is fighting and dropping guys who outweigh him 30, 40 and 50 pounds or more, and Beterbiev is taking the easy road.

Beterbiev doesn't fight at heavyweight, because then he'd have to knock out heavyweights. And clearly he doesn't think he can. So he's fighting the lightest guys he possibly can.

According to Serge, Beterbiev is still whining about Usyk outweighing him by a handful of pounds. Weight bullies don't like to come in lighter than their opponents. Because they don't think they can win.

 

Im pretty sure that Artur with 190lbs weight would beat 210lbs Wilder, thats easy job for Artur's body shots and short distance punches.

 

No poll?

 

Then maybe he should move up, instead of fighting Fanlong Meng.

I'm sure fighting Wilder, Fury, Joshua, etc. pays better than fighting Meng.

Wonder why Beterbiev didn't? He's such a great knockout artist, after all. Could it be that maybe he wouldn't be such a great knockout artist if he wasn't fighting the lightest guys humanly possible for him?

 

It would be very difficult to find HW title holders accepting fight with him, it's kinda high risk low reward fights for them. I think he is trying to become undisputed champion in LHW and then move up or quit from boxing. Btw, he is pretty small LHW fighter, guys like Fenlong, Gvozdyk, Kalaydjic had 2inch reach advantage over him, and there are so many SMW guys who are even taller.

 

Id say beteriev.

A lot of bums go in the ring and look at home with wilder. They don't get beat up, they just get hit with a one punch knock out often late in the fight.

Beterbiev, he brutalises people, its actually painful to watch. And he has done it to elite fighters.
There is a real fear in facing beterbiev .gvodsyk retired after facing him

 

BETERBIEV WAS THE #1 AMATEUR HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE WORLD.

Joe Frazier didn't move down to light heavyweight because there were middleweights and light heavyweights who were taller than him.

Beterbiev dries out and fights lighter guys because it's easier than trying to knock out heavyweights.

He's a heavyweight fighting light heavyweights. Make all the excuses or try to rationalize all you want. That's the truth.

And if we're talking who is the better knockout artist between Beterbiev and Wilder, talking about how tough super middleweights are isn't helping Beterbiev's case.

Because BETERBIEV WAS THE #1 AMATEUR HEAVYWEIGHT IN THE WORLD. Wilder fought in the same division. He wasn't.

Wilder is the better knockout artist.

 

HW in amateurs is below 91kg, almost the same with cruiserweight in pros. When Artur fought in amateurs HW he was only 85-86kgs. Even now in pros he is not heavier than 85 during the fight. So, 85-86kgs is his natural weight, he is not a guy who loses a lot of kgs before a fight.