Who is the better knockout artist, Deontay Wilder or Artur Beterbiev? (regardless of weight class)

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Who is the better knockout artist regardless of weight class?

  1. Artur Beterbiev

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  2. Deontay Wilder

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    30.3%
  1. Somali Sanil

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    Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong for Wilder. A depressed obese cocaine addict, that's what Wilder thought he was facing, and now he's tied in to his beatings. Nothing proud about it. Plus Beterbiev is swerved big time, where as wilder has law suits against him for not fighting his mandatories in the past. Plus there isn't a heavy about that could weigh in at 175, Beterbiev is a light heavy. Even a natural cruiser couldn't make 175... Huge weight to lose and be dominant. Bro, Wilders dog ****
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    His "walking around weight?" No, it's not.

    Are you telling me he didn't work out before his pro debut? He didn't train? He didn't run miles? He ate everything he wanted. Drank everything he wanted. And he strolled in weighing 185?

    Jesus. Give it a rest. Seriously.
     
  3. Somali Sanil

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    He wouldn't be fit to fight if your figures were correct. Name me the fighters at heavy that could make 175 ? The fighters that are the same weight mass as what you think Beterbiev should weigh at up at heavy and who he should be fighting? I'm guessing none roughly lol..Even Hunter, a tiny Heavy, or Usyk, you think they could trim down to 175 and not need hospital, let alone fight
     
  4. Dubblechin

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    The fact that he can diet, train, run until his legs fall off, drain his shirts out after workouts from all the water he's losing, to make 175 for a couple minutes, and then over the next 30 hours put 15 or 20 pounds back on before the bell rings ...

    ISN'T HELPING HIS ARGUMENT ... and is only proving my point.

    Beterbiev could just as, if not more easily, come in fit and weighing 210.

    But he's a heavyweight who dries out. BECAUSE HE doesn't even believe himself that he can compete and knock out heavyweights. Or he would.

    If we're rating who the best knockout artist as between these two guys who fought at heavyweight in the amateurs ...

    And it's between the guy who has been outweighed by everyone he's fought for the last eight years, yet still knocked out 41 heavyweights and was the WBC Heavyweight champion for five years ...

    Or the guy who cuts as much weight as humanly possible, rehydrates, then fights 15 light heavyweights ...

    I'm NOT picking the weight bully. No sane person would. That's why the "troll brigade" is out.
     
  5. Somali Sanil

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    Do you think Usyk and Hunter could make 175 ??
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    No. I'm saying he didn't drain the weight. It is his walk around weight, and it's what he drains down from. If he wanted to make 175, he could've. And you think he doesn't train all year round? Give over.

    Beterbeiv would be a 190lbs CW in the same day weigh-in era, and in day before weigh-in era, he's a LHW.

    It's literally ONLY YOU who cannot grasp that. It's almost as if you have a pro Wilder agenda.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    It's not a weight loss contest. It's boxing.

    When has Beterbiev actually stepped in the ring and fought at 175? He can't do it, either.

    In the amateurs, they weigh boxers in the day of the fight. They have to keep weighing in the whole tournament. They can't weigh in once and then eat what they want and weigh whatever they want.

    And Beterbiev hasn't been able to fight in the ring weighing less than 179 pounds since 2010. A decade ago.

    He outgrew the amateur light heavyweight division (with a higher weight limit than the pro light heavy division) a decade ago!

    Artur Beterbiev is not a light heavyweight. And he was the #1 amateur heavyweight in the world as far back as nine years ago.

    He's a weight bully. He defines weight bully.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    NO, George, it's not his walking around weight.

    Read the articles about Beterbiev before his pro debut when he weighed 185.

    All the articles are about the hard work he's putting in at the gym and the sweat ringing out of his clothes. He didn't stroll in off the street weighing 185. He didn't start camp at 185.

    That's what he weighed AFTER camp. Since then, he's learned how to cut weight for weigh ins even more.

    He could easily hire a nutritionist and a coach and weigh 210. But then he'd have to fight heavyweights.

    And he can't do that, because he's a weight bully.

    He's SUCH a weight bully he won't even fight cruiserweights. The guy is an off-the-charts weight bully.
     
  9. Somali Sanil

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    Beterbiev would be tiny against anyone at Heavy, even Hunter and Usyk would make him look small. If he can weigh in at 175 and have his late fight strength that he has, that tells me he's ok at the weight. I'd say if cruiser was 190, he'd probably have campaigned there, but the 200lb is to much, he's giving away size even though he'd do well, heavy is just being silly. To be a cruiser even, his walk round weight would be around 220. Not happening
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    So he's not a heavyweight? Thank you, concession signed and sealed.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    Yes. A small heavyweight.

    So was Tyson. So was Frazier. So was Shavers. But they were knockout artists.

    That's what we're talking about, right? Knockout artists?
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    I didn't conceed anything. (LOL)
     
  13. Somali Sanil

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    You think Frazier an Tyson could make 175 ??
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    You've been saying he's a heavyweight draining down. And then you say he's 185lbs.

    Which is it?
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    They weren't weight bullies. Is this a term none of you guys are familiar with?

    They wanted to fight the best in the world. Beterbiev does not. He wants to drain himself of as much weight as humanly possible before a weigh-in, and rehydrate back as much as he can before the bell rings ... so he can get the lightest belt he can grab, against the smallest competition he can face.

    Most top amateur heavyweights want to fight for the world heavyweight title and become the top dog in the sport, regardless of what they have to give up in size or weight or reach to do so.

    Beterbiev is the OPPOSITE of that. He wants to fight the lightest, smallest competition he can get, where he feels he'll have the physical advantages.

    I'm not voting for the weight bully punk.