Who is the better of the two and by how much-Sonny or George?

Let's focus more on what these men did in the ring.

 

Height, reach...he's also wider man.
Tua is just more muscular and heavier, he isn't bigger man.

Nope, he was just heavier and fat, Frazier was bigger.

According to your stupid logic Mayweather is bigger than Ali.

 

Please,

Come on man, LaMotta was great fighter.In it's 80th aniversary edition the Ring named
Jake LaMotta as the 52nd greatest fighter for the years between 1922 and 2002.

 

LaMotta was good MW but not in my top 5 and he beat Satterfield which shows that Satterfield wasnt that good.

 

George punches too wide and if he comes up the middle its an uppercut which still leaves him vulnerable to Sonnys hook and overhand right. Look at the punches George got hit with in the Lyle fight, Liston would knock him out

 

He was fighting very differently when he met Lyle to how he performed at his best. Not that I disagree. Just…there were better versions of Foreman, who likely would’ve disposed of Lyle more readily (& let’s not forget the bell sounding a full minute early when Lyle was hurt in round two).

 

That's okay with me,but when the Cretin says Lewis is bigger than Tua its permissable to remark that Tua had a 51 in chest 30 inch thighs and 19 1/2 in biceps,imo.

Liston, pre championship cleared out the heavyweight division.no ifs ,
no buts,he did it.
DeJohn
Harris
Bethea
Valdes
Folley
Williams
Besmanoff
Were all stopped
Machen went the distance,fighting just to survive.
Had Sonny been given the chance earlier he could have won the title from either Floyd or Ingo and some of those challengers would have been title defences,and who knows he might have been in better shape to defend against Ali?
Foreman was given an easier ride in his passage into a contender,but he did take on experienced trial horses,and tough men like Peralta,Wepner and Chuvalo.

Liston was, for me,the better boxer,with better reflexes,,and a better jab,his Achilles heel was his inability to cut off the ring.
Both had top chins.
Foreman was more powerful and had fine lateral movement.

LIston was better imo ,but Foreman has the more impressive resume.

Is that okay Janitor?