who is the better weight jumper?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    yes, he forced judah, gatti, mitchell, baldomir, de la hoya and de marcus corley to move up in weight.

    this is a ******ed comment.

    an like i previously said, the question is regarding athleticism not ability!
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 25, 2009
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    he has moved through the weights well, but there are times when he hasn't made weight, when he's looked drained, when he's looked weak at a weight, and when he's forced opponents into a catchweight.
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 25, 2009
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  3. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is much better. Its the actual weight jumping, its how he does it. Mayweather has had to change his style to more safety first when fighting at 147 and above. Pacquiao still fights like he used to, all action taking chances and shots to land monster shots of his own.
     
    mughalmirza786, Nov 25, 2009
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  4. dredge777

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    Let me clear this up with you crazy *****:

    1. How many times has Pac asked for a catchweight? Once, against Cotto who was the biggest puncher he has ever faced. In ODH fight, they both agreed to fight at 147 - WW not a catchweight. In Cotto-Clottey fight, Cotto was 146 that's why he agreed at 145 because he knows he can lose 1 friggin' lb easy not 2 lbs as you want it to appear.

    2. Yes Floyd have not asked for a catchweight but he did agreed to fight JMM at 144 but not man enough to honor the contract and pulled a ***** move that you are so blind to see because of your sexual fantasy with him.

    3, And to answer your poll, yes Pac is the better weight jumper.
     
    dredge777, Nov 25, 2009
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  5. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl welterweight is 141-147 with 147 being the weight limit:hi:
     
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  6. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he has only fought one catchweight fight against cotto. The same cotto who mayweather wants no part of:lol:
     
    Vitor Belfort, Nov 25, 2009
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    you don't need to come out of the closet here, tell ya family first :hi:
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 25, 2009
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  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Name two :hey
     
    bladerunner, Nov 25, 2009
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  9. CharlieGarbs

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    Definetly Pac. Not only has he carried his lightning speed up, he has increased his power, and has was taking fully blown body shots from a legit Welter in Cotto and didn't even flinch. He's been in many wars and its amazing at how fresh he still is. His whole body has been transformed even better than anyone has ever expected. Dont get me wrong, Floyds amazing aswell, but I give Pac just that little edge when it comes to weight jumping.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    the increase in power is the one thing i definately favour pacman over.

    but in his early career he couldn't settle on a weight, he was never natural at the weights and was drained for a lot of fights.

    when i refer to catch weights, obviously cotto. but also the talks of pac v floyd, roach wants it at 145. talk of pac vs mosley, that was gonna be at 143.

    i agree pac is a better fighter than floyd, and his destruction of hatton and cotto have immensely showcased that. i just don't think he is as athletic at floyd.

    floyd has never had weight problems. pac has. that is the basis of my argument there.
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 25, 2009
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  11. HitBattousai

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    Then your basis is incorrect. Mayweather-Marquez, Floyd didn't make the contracted weight of 144. You could argue that over his career Pacquaio has had more weight problems, but he's also jumped a lot more weight over time than Floyd at the pro level.
     
    HitBattousai, Nov 25, 2009
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    i think he always intended to come in at 147, if this is the case there was no weight issue.

    he has jumped a lot more weight, and is handling it really well right now. but over the 2 careers i think floyd has consistenly been a better weight jumper.
     
    lufcrazy, Nov 27, 2009
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  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he fought a fight who was a welter weight but he did not fight at the welter weight limit.
     
    pit, Nov 27, 2009
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  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if that the case it should not have been contracted.
     
    pit, Nov 27, 2009
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  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    145 = welterweight and thats a fact.
     
    bladerunner, Nov 27, 2009
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