Who is the bigger star in England: Calzaghe or Hatton?

Hatton no doubt

 

Great post, that makes alot of sense, Hatton at least took a chance and stepped to the plate when his name was called, it's good to hear having balls still counts for something.:good

 

Complete horse ****.

 

So the millions of pounds purse had nothing to do with Hatton fighting PBF? He was doing it cause he wated to fly the union jack in the states? The hitman should never have taken that fight he was getting pumped up to make that weight.Brave as **** Ricky but he was out of his depth for all sorts of reasons- weight,bad trainer and beig hyped up by a media that knows nothing about boxing But I agree that gangster Warren holds back the best fighters til he gets enough dough to unleash them on to the american market

 

It certainly does over in the UK, and despite all the bull**** in this thread that is exactly why Hatton is loved and Calzaghe isn't. Hatton wanted to prove himself to be the very best in the sport. Yes he failed but he TRIED. Calzaghe has taken the easy route at every turn, he stepped up the comp at an age where most 'great' fighters are hanging them up because the time was right and the OPPONENTS were right, bravery doesn't even enter into it as far as Calzaghe is concerned.

Us Brits (contrary to popular belief) don't love a loser, we love a guy that isn't a scared *****. Bruno had the guts to stand toe to toe with Witherspoon and Tyson and lost OK, but he was 25 when he fought Witherspoon, 29 when he fought Tyson. At that age Calzaghe was fighting Will McIntyre whilst claiming Jones was scared of him :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

Let me guess, you're a Calzaghe fan, right :think

 

You haven't debunked a single point that I made. OK Hatton made a lot of money fighting Mayweather, do you honestly think Calzaghe couldn't have made a fortune by getting KO'd by Jones or Hopkins back in the day when it would have been meaningful? The only reason he wouldn't have made big money back then was because he was only a WBO belt holder and (and this is important by the way) WHO'S ****ING FAULT WAS THAT?? Jones's? Hopkins? It was Calzaghes own fault, smple as that.

Hatton made himself impossible for Floyd to duck and he got the fight, Calzaghe just stuck to his bull**** tinpot WBO route and therefore made himself a very unattractive fight to the true greats of the day, and I suspect this was deliberate. It's no coincidence that he's suddenly unifying and demanding big fights now Jones and Hopkins are middle aged. Sorry if you're too blind to see it differently but that's just the way it is.

 

Ok this is bona fide horse ****.

Prior to the Lacey fight everybody was saying Calzaghe was going to get battered.
Same for Kessler.
Now he is moving up a weight and fighting Bernard Hopkins in Las Vegas.

Give the guy a ****ing break will you.

PS...when is Hatton gonna man up and stop being a ***** regarding Witter?

 

Wow some intra Brit tensions going on here. I've followed calzaghe's career from the start and also have a lot of respect for Hatton for breaking from Warren and doing america when he could've just lined his and Warren's pockets by filling the MEN Arena. So totoal respect for Ricky and I hope he gets back into shape and into the ring soon, but I also hope calzaghe does himself justice before he retires. Hatton is the most popular in the UK as he has the personality out of the ring - come to think of it I was watching him last night on a ****in chat show. But calzaghe is in a different league when it comes to ability in the ring but needs to show he has the balls to go prove it like Ricky had the balls to

 

Very true, dont forget Bruno's valient effort against a prime Lewis, he made Lewis' legs buckle a couple times in that fight. I'm not a Hatton or Calzaghe fan, but to be honest, I give Hatton a ton of credit for taking on the number 1 P4P, and giving Mayweather all he could handle early on. While I give Calzaghe credit for beating Kessler, it's no where near the challange Hatton had to face against a proven champ in Mayweather. I think when all the smokes cleared and both mens careers are over, Hatton will still be loved and Calzaghe will be known as the guy who held the WBO belt for 10 years, fighting weak competition, and practically staying at the same weight for almost his whole career, to avoid tougher fights at higher weights.

 

Since the Calzaghe fight Lacy has been proved to be a total bum.

Kessler, well yeah Joe beat him, but the Calzaghe fans that act like that fight was total ownage are ****ing jokers, Calzaghe went life or death with Kessler, who is lets face it a one dimensional Euro-bum. Jones would have KO'd Kessler inside 6 rounds at 168 without a doubt.

Woo-hoo Joe is finally moving up to a meaningful weight against a meaningful opponent in Vegas, wow! He's a hall of fame fighter, obviously :nut

To use your logic then Ali was already the best heavyweight that ever laced up the gloves when he beat Archie Moore - and that's assuming Calzaghe beats Hopkins, which isn't exactly a given.

 

To avoid tougher fights at meaningful weights I think you meant? The 168 division is still considered a division for pussies as far as I understand it.

You're right though, as I was. Bruno had balls that Calzaghe could only dream of.....did Frank take the WBO route? He could have, Herbie Hide was calling him out for years, but he knew better so he went for Tyson and Lewis. He gave them both a lot of problems and lost, no shame there. Plenty of shame in the ***** route that Calzaghe has taken though. It's testimony to Calzaghe's career that his most career defining fight is at age 36 against a 43 year old natural middleweight. And the Calzaghe fans have got the nerve to rip on Bernard for only fighting guys that are naturally smaller than him :rofl :rofl atsch

 

I'm a calzaghe fan not a nuthugger so I can understand where you're coming from on the things posted in this thread. I think I'd have to draw the line on that comment though

 

I wouldnt worry too much, Calzaghe will never be ranked highly with most of the true greats by boxing historians, the people that actually know what there talking about. I think Calzaghe has great talent, but whats talent if you dont challenge yourself, staying in the same weight division, defending just the WBO title for nearly 10 years until you have to finally fight someone who might give you tough match, I find laughable. If he beats Hopkins, good for him, but the fact he pissed nearly 10 years of his career fighting sub par opposition, cant be erased.