Who is the earliest fighter who you think could beat the best of their size, currently active?

So you think a man weighing 188lb is capable of defeating a prime Wlad and Joshua? But just one man?

 

Wlad was shot, but still dropped that musclebound Brit...and Wilder wields terrible power, as awkward as he is, and is fortunate that he's in this Grade B (and that's being merciful) age that he's in...yes, I think that he would be able to ko a shot Wlad and an overrated Joshua.

 

Joshua is a physical specimen compared to Dempsey. 6’6 250lb, young in his prime, very athletic,, very strong, has knockout power in both hands, has fast hands for his size, understands range... how to fight using his length and keep people at a distance, has a good left jab, has a lot heart....

So essentially he’s a superheavyweight in his prime with speed, skills, power, athleticism and defense. No man of that size who was around during Dempsey’s era had even two of those attributes let alone all 5...

Name me a man weighing 188lb in the past 40 years who has defeated the likes of Lewis, Bowe, Joshua, fury, Tyson, foreman, and Klitschko brothers? Name me a man weighing 188lb who has gotten in the ring with those men and tried to outslug them? It doesn’t happen. It hasn’t happen. It’s unrealistic.

Look at the heavyweights Joshua has been beating. All ranked contenders at least 6’3-6’4 weighing 230lb plus...some bigger and taller...no men weighing 188lb date challenge Joshua in the ring.


“Klitschko”

1. Brewster and Sanders were both 6’3-6’4 225-240lb.....Sanders was a tricky southpaw...both in physical attributes and style Dempsey was nothing like him. Brewster was much bigger, stronger, and more durable than Dempsey.

2. Wlad fought these men before he had reached his prime...wlad changed his style under steward to where it was almost impossible to get inside on him. From 2007-2014 wlad prime, he was nearly unbeatable. You can see the difference in his change in style...he was a genius at understanding range and how to use his length. He would keep you at the end of an ATG jab, followed by a fast deadly accurate straight right, and a crippling left hook...if you got lucky enough to get inside on him he would clinch you and toss you around with his 6’6 250lb frame...which would dwarf any 188lb fighter. During this time ..he had nearly 20 title defenses, his opposition was the best available 3 number 1 ranked contenders...his resume actually blows Dempsey’s out of the water because he had much more title defenses against much higher ranked fighters. All of these men were much bigger, longer, taller than Dempsey.

Again no man weighing 188lb dared challenge wlad in the ring....

How can Dempsey possibly compete against these two at 188lb? He would be physically mismatched, he wouldn’t be able to handle their power, strength and understanding of using their physical length...


Dempsey was tagged, and tagged hard and often by men weighing 170-190lb, sometimes hurt badly. What’s gonna happen when he gets tagged by a 6’6 250lb ATG left jab followed by a deadly straight right hand behind it?

He avoided the one great heavyweight of his era and failed to fight the second best heavyweight who weighed only 165lb...

 

A Prime wlad. The wlad who dismantled chagaev...Dempsey could beat him?

Wlad joshua was a great fight. Wlad was in excellent shape.
Past his prime, but still better than anyone in the world..wlad still had massive power, great movement on his feet, a great jab, and a dangerous right hand...

Wlad joshua fight showed a degree of skill and athletics a fighter like Willard could only dream of

 

I think Dempsey was great

Size is an important issue. There are still posters out there who think historical 185lb fighters can defeat ATG superheavyweights like Lennox Lewis. I think this is asinine. It’s not about Dempsey, it’s about any 185lb man in history being able to defeat a modern super heavyweight..

How come in 40 years it hasn’t come close to happening?

 

Talk about an agenda,...a tiresome, repetitive, broken record of an agenda.

 

I've slowly come to the conclusion that in this era of heavyweight mediocrities, that Wilder will eventually put this overrated, musclebound Brit's lights out whenever they get around to fighting.

 

Amen.

 

funny, when I joined this forum back in 2005 at age 17..I used to argue to death in favor of the other side. That Dempsey, Marciano, etc could defeat the Lewis and Bowes...That Tunney Charles could beat Klitschkos....then I grew up and matured into an adult and realized how unrealistic and delusional it is.

I still think it’s a popular and important subject to discuss

 

My picks....

I think Willie Pep beats anyone at 126

I think Tony Canzoneri can beat Lomachenko

I think Marciano and Dempsey could beat Usyk

I think Joe Louis could beat Joshua

I think Benny Leonard beats anyone at 126

I think Tunney beats Kovalev/Ward