Who Is The Greater Fighter As Of Now?

I would be inclined to say Hopkins, it's strange though. Hopkins has mastered boxing. Lennox is one of the best heavies that has ever lived, but Hopkins has actually mastered the scientific aspect of boxing. But boxing is not all science and there is art involved, that's where effectiveness is the ultimate issue, and I would probably say that when it comes down to who is actually better, all things considered, talking the ultimate effectiveness then I'm going to say Lewis is better.

But in terms of greatness I'm going for Hopkins, he's achieved a dam lot when all is said and done. I'm a ridiculously massive Hopkins fan though so maybe there's something in that.

 

I dont like Lewis

 

:scaredas:

 

Sorry boys, I just genuinely never liked the bloke. I sat up with around 20 friends wanting him to get smashed by Tyson (I was the only one by the way). I was seriously gutted (ableit not suprised) when it turned out the way it did.

Back to the question. In my personal opinion, the only truly great wins of Lewis' were both Holyfield 'Wins'. I dont really consider the Tyson, McCall, Bruno wins as that good. Nor do I believe the Vitali win was that good. I genuinely believe if they'd have rematched he'd have gotten beaten, hence his retirement. Obviously he wasnt peak himself but too much emphasis gets put on that IMO and I genuinely cant class it as anymore than a good win.

The Hopkins win against Trinidad was a GREAT win. The Pavlik win was a GREAT win. The Pascal win was nearly a great win (Much closer than the Vitali one in similiar context). The weights Hopkins has been through, the longevity of his career and the fact he had virtually no Amateur 'upbringing' means IMO that he should go down quite a few places higher than that Canadian ****er

All my opinion of course, but thats obviously what you wanted...... Peoples opinions

 

Pavlik and Pascal aren't very good though. Pascal is hopeless and Pavlik was 10 pounds above his best weight. They are great conquests indeed, but fairly average opposition if you ask me.

 

But Pascal is petty bad and gasses horribly, and Pavlik was shown up by Martinez as well. Dan, how do u think a Prime Lewis does against the Vitali he fought?

 

Thats the best thing about a forum pal. Everyone's opinion counts for something. Unless you're called ****ing Lirva that is.

Each to their own :good

 

Or Joan_Guzman :yep

 

Too true :rofl

 

Trinidad was a great Welterweight fighting at 160 and Pavlik was a good Middleweight fighting at LHW:-(Hopkins is the ultimate midget beater.
His best win was Tarver IMO

 

Terry Norris was the ultimate midget beater :yep

I also think Trinidad was at his very best as a Light Middleweight, and still highly effective as a Middleweight, as he proved in his decimation of William Joppy. He didn't exactly prove himself to be at his best as a 160 pounded, but he also didn't prove himself to be any less of a fighter either.

 

If Hopkins, sorry when Hopkins beats Bad Chad on Oct 15th, I'm sure a certain VIP will be putting B-Hop ahead of Lewis H2H due to the magnitude of that win