Who is the greater fighter? Hopkins or Calzaghe?

Stop spamming the same **** over and over atsch

 

Calzaghe can beat any light heavyweight version of BHop. BHop is a legendary fighter though. In view of his record setting career at middleweight and his ability to fight well at this age, overall BHop is more legendary than Calzaghe.

But Calzaghe was the only fighter in the last 15 years to figure out BHop and outbox him going down the stretch. At the time people said Calzaghe simply got an old version of BHop. But BHop, based on last night's performance, was certainly not washed up when he fought Calzaghe. I would pick BHop to beat Dawson at this point.

 

You have got to be either blind or know very little about boxing to even suggest calzaghe beat hopkins.

Sure he threw more punches (if you can even call em that) but he hardly landed anything. Calzaghe looked like an amateur in there.

 

That was the consensus in Vegas. Joe was completely dismissed as being unexceptional. I know it breaks some ESB kid's hearts but it takes real talent to make an impression over here (especially as the sport has long been pretty dead so the competition level is so low). Joe will always be a legend at home (just nowhere else). Scraping by with flailing missed slaps, getting dropped, possessing no power, and showing a lack of quality in technique made leaving a positive impression impossible to those who actually follow boxing - the novice fan completely forgot Joe as quickly as they saw him enter the ring .

 

Hopkins fasho!!!

 

Had they never fought it's a no brainer for Hopkins. But they did fight, @ Hopkins weight, @ Hopkins home, and Calzaghe won and then retired undfeated. Calz > Hopkins.

 

Hopkins and its not even close.

Their fight was heavily disputed and many people (and rightfully so) thought B-Hop won.

But even with Calsfaggy getting the victory, Hopkins still ranks waaay higher. Sorry, Caltardz.

 

Ok greater fighter and greater legacy are two different questions. Greater legacy obviously Bhops, but h2h slight edge or a draw with Calzaghe is understandable. Joe landed more punches, but with the knockdown and rounds won I gave it 6 rounds to each so a draw not out of the question. Good fight tho skill vs will where will prevailed.

 

Let's break it down:

- Calzaghe did not "comfortably" win against Hopkins. He was knocked down and hurt, while never once hurting Hopkins. Hopkins landed the crisper, cleaner punches. Calzaghe threw nothing but powerless flurries. The majority of press row scoring (including the BBC ) had Hopkins winning.

- Calzaghe's corner thought they lost the fight before the scores were announced. You could even see it in thier faces.

- Calzaghe refused to give Hopkins a rematch even in his own backyard. Golden Boy even offered a VERY lucrative amount for a Calzaghe-Hopkins match in Wales, not long into his "retirement". Calzaghe refused, acknowledging full well he would be risking his "0" in a second fight with Hopkins. Ironically, he had no probably giving bums like Veit a rematch. :roll:

- Calzaghe fought no one of note during his minor WBO reign, refusing to fight for any of the major world title belts. The only exceptions were Lacy, who turned out to be a bum, and Kessler, who was later embarrased by Ward. (Hey, according to Brit logic, Ward's legacy skyrocketed with his win )

- Was given a gift decision against Reid, a no namer who went on to be nothing special. Refused to give rematch. Interesting pattern how he refuses to give fighters rematches that give him trouble, yet fights a bum like Veit twice :roll:.

- Out of all the people who beat a faded Roy Jones, Calzaghe struggled the most.

The only people who regard Calzaghe as "great" are his blind fans. Not even the British press rates Calzaghe very high. This is especially amusingly clear on this very forum.

 

yeah but he has beaten johnson years ago tarver, pavilk first, pascal years ago he would have beaten calzaghe because he was younger and joe stilled struggle why did he retire he wanted no parts of a hopkins rematch.

 

hopkins by a country mile.

 

How many of Joe's opponents have gone on to great accomplishments after? Or even gone to win some titles. That's usually a sign your opponent wasn't just your average 'one and done' title challenger. Anyone?

 

Great point.

 

Only Kessler (twice) and BHOP ( just now) won titles (excluding regional and domestic ****).

Kessler beat Sartison and Froch and BHOP beat Pascal.

McIntyre did win a rodeo medal I think.

 

Hopkins will go down as having the greater legacy, no doubt. That in itself tips the scales...