MArquez was borderline and could easily have been left off imo though, turbo. I do think his series with Pac distinguishes him from Joe however.His record is as slim as Calzaghe's without it, but you can't take it away.
No way he watched those fights. Plus, Norwood is better than most the comp Joe was fighting. Notice he's using his jermain alt to try and save a little shred of credibility.
Maybe but if Marquez is off then Joe is definitely off even lower. You can't just take off wins against fellow all-timers though. That's like taking Joe's Hopkins win away and then saying he's top 300 without that.
Hmm.. I votes Calzaghe.. But then I was thinking.. Whats the question here?? Better fighter ? or better resume? If Calzaghe vs JMM = Calzaghe on points... Resume = JMM has the better..
Its marquez by alotn but Joes very underated..only person i wudnt have fancied him to beat at supermiddle or light heavy during his reign was prime jones.