Who is The Greatest Asian Fighter of All time???

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  1. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    I heard about galaxy but he has'nt fought outside of thai. Pac beat the likes of: mab,jmm,em,larios,sasakul,hussein and ledwaba. This are padded records right here dude.And if pac wins against david pac would be a 6time world titlist in 5 different weight divisions counting the 2 ring mag. belts!
    In short pac, no packing nuthugging, no packing soulless opinions but mere pacts!
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So first you say ranking Johnson based on his P4P rating is unsuitable, and by the end you're using Arbachakov's P4P rating as a measurement for his standing. Seems a bit biased to me.

    And if you knew anything about Arbachakov or his career, you'd know he was well past his prime and in the last bout of his career when he lost the rematch to Sasakul(whom he'd beaten in their first bout).

    It was close. I have seen it recently, but Arbachakov won by two points on my card. In the second fight, he beat a finished Arbachakov.

    Well then, you simply don't know what you're talking about. Style-wise, a guy like Sasakul was a harder matchup for someone like Arbachakov than Johnson.

    That's about enough out of you.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You're confused. While the majority of his fights were in Japan, plenty more than 5 of his opponents were non-Japanese, and the Japanese fighters he did face were among the best ever.

    Both the wins and losses are to a higher quality of opponent than Pac's opposition consists of, and a good portion of the losses are either past prime or robberies.

    It must be hard to argue as well, given your limited knowledge on the subject.
     
  4. TFFP

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    Well that says more about your lack of knowledge than Harada, really. Infact, all of your posts thus far have been horse ****.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    And you feel you have the right to rate Pacquiao as the best ever Asian boxer without any knowledge of his competition throughout history?
     
  6. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    STFU all you really want is to discriminate pac weather you admit it or not.
     
  7. jaco

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    The reason you don't know anything about Harada is because you lack a basic understanding of boxing history. I also don't understand how Harada not being in articles is relevant, just because writers don't have an interest in him doesn't mean he's not great. Knowledgable boxing fans acknowledge Harada as an ATG, whether or not the writers do.

    Regarding Elorde, Harada was the Flyweight and Bantamweight champion, not to mention he was robbed of being the Featherweight champ. Like Elorde, he is a HOFer. You neglect to mention the fact that most of Elorde's fights where in the Philipines, despite degrading Harada for fighting in Japan. You're showing a lack of knowledge and bias.

    Yes Harada fought primarily in Japan, however a large portion of his challengers where not infact from Japan and where the top fighters in his weightclass. The location of his bouts is not relevant because he fought top competiton.

    You have admitted to not knowng anything about Harada, yet you make an uneducated claim that Pac is better than him. If you're going to say such a thing atleast back it up with evidence and comparison - something you've have shown no ability to do. Again, I have no problem with you saying that Pacquiao is better, just back mit up with real objective analysis,
     
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  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You're clueless on Harada because you're clueless about boxing history or anything outside of Pinoy fighters, just like the rest of your ******* friends. Anyone with a basic understanding of Harada's resume and skills would say otherwise, as he has a better overall resume than Pac by a good deal, and was definitely the more skilled, versatile fighter.

    All you *******s ever do is reference articles to prove your fighters greatness rather than pointing out achievements. It really gets old.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Harada won titles at Flyweight and Bantamweight, before losing the Featherweight title in his two attempts late in his career when past his prime, and this is a smaller fighter naturally than Pacquiao.

    At the point he beat Jofre, he may have been the best P4P, or right up there, and the difference is, a fighter didn't have to retire to give him his place, but rather Harada defeated him, in a much strong era.

    And once again, when looking at their resumes, Harada holds a very clear edge.
     
  12. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take a look again at his resume. Approx 90% of those boxers he beat are from JAPAN only. He could be the greatest japanese boxer but asian? How can you be the greatest asian boxer if your resume is composed of approx 90% JAPANESE boxers only and 10% other nationals?
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    You are confused, about 95% of his fights took place in Japan, only about 50% of the fights he had were against Japanese boxers. He had fights with guys like Eder Jofre, Jose Medel, Bernardo Caraballo, Johnny Famechon, Lionel Rose, Dwight Hawkins, Alan Rudkin, etc, all from different nations.
     
  14. Raging B(_)LL

    Raging B(_)LL KAPOW!!! Full Member

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    What the hell does that have to do with anything? It is not the nationality of the opponent that matters but rather his calibre and pedigree as a pugilist.... a fighter`s resume and eventual legacy is determined by who his best opponents were, not by how many of his own countryman he has fought, wouldn`t you agree?
     
  15. Ziggy Montana

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