Who is The Greatest Asian Fighter of All time???

dhenzrae · Dec 24, 2008

Janjalani said: ↑

I though it was Bruce Lee?
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:nono it's weng weng

AlFrancis · Dec 24, 2008

Raging B(_)LL said: ↑

BoppaZoo said:

Do pray tell then, BoppaZoo, who are these numerous writers and experts who claim that Harada got all these gift decisions, because my own research on the man has not once revealed any such instances of him being on the receiving end of numerous gift decisions.... if you can name your sources I`d like to know who they are.

True, he didn`t blow away his opposition the way Pac has done to both EM and MAB, but lets be fair here. Neither EM or MAB were at the peak of their respective careers when they squared off against Pacquiao, this cannot be denied.

MAB while close to his peak at the time of their first meeting was on the downward slide of said peak, whereas Morales had the proverbial last great performance of a great fighter in his go with the Filipino in their first bout, after that it was all downhill for Morales.

So what if Harada did not leave Japan? Many former Japanese and Asian fighters in general never left home either to defend their titles, does that mean they were all hacks because they did not fight abroad? If you would be familiar in any way, shape or form with Asian boxers or boxing in general you would be well aware that the fighters who elected to defend their titles in Japan against the home fighter were paid very well to do so and treated with the utmost respect once they arrived in Japan.

Perhaps you ought to look into acquiring copys of their fights before passing judgement on wether the wrong man got the nod in both encounters. Harada beat him fair and square both times, and Jofre himself said that he was treated fairly while in Japan and he never raised a stink about the losses either as he had no reason to.

The scores may have been close, but the right man got the decision and title so what is your beef?

The Rudkin fight wasn`t close at all, Harada dropped him hard in the first and won the fight handily the rest of the way. Rudkin did make things interesting for portions of the middle rounds, but that was more due to Harada laying off the gas for a bit before resuming his more busy style for the last third of the fight.
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I suggest you watch the Rudkin fight again because I think it was a lot closer than you describe it. Rudkin didn't go down heavily in the first round, he slipped after missing a with a looping right hand and jumped up straight away. The referee jumped straight in and gave him a count while Rudkin shook his head in exasperration. I won't argue about the decision but there were a lot of very close rounds where Rudkin continuously landed good body shots which slowed Harada down. Harada scored with eye catching barrages of punches but only in spurts before he held and tried to bull Rudkin to the ropes where Rudkin used his better footwork to turn Harada.
It's worth noting that the Japanese Judges scored the fight wide wile Nicky Pope, the neutral judge only had 2 points between them at 72 - 70. Presumably that scorecard indicated a lot of even rounds. In Japan with Harada as champ you can see why the other judges would have probably given these close rounds to Harada but in a neutral country i think the scorecards would show this as closer than you describe. I think you should look at the kockdown again as your description of it discredits the rest of your analysis.

This response is for Raging B-ull and not BoppaZoo
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koki_kameda · Feb 16, 2009

Koki Kameda

asero · Feb 16, 2009

lapu lapu

Tony OldSchool · Feb 16, 2009

The Asian Tyson - Khaosai Galaxy

kalunya5964 · Feb 17, 2009

PacDbest said: ↑

This for me is easy to answer. Pacquiao has this hands down. I don't know why veterans like acb and Sweet pea can't acknowledge it.

- The only Asian to win titles at 112,122, 126 & 130.
- The Only Asian to be Ranked #1 P4P.
- 3 future ATG HOF in his Resume(JMM, MAB & EM)

If you disagree, let me know who is the Greatest Asian boxers and make a case for it.
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It's a toss between Goyong del Pilar and Macario Sakay! Seriously... yes, it's Pac hands down.:good

HyperBone · Feb 17, 2009

wow this thread is alive again

asero · Feb 17, 2009

kalunya5964 said: ↑

It's a toss between Goyong del Pilar and Macario Sakay! Seriously... yes, it's Pac hands down.:good
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yamashita..timeless legend

Stinky gloves · Feb 17, 2009

Scar said: ↑

Marquez, Barrera and Morales. All future hall of a famers.
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Where did you lost DLH ?

kalunya5964 · Feb 17, 2009

asero said: ↑

yamashita..timeless legend
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Right but mainly due to his massive war arsenal.

JMP · Feb 17, 2009

Tony OldSchool said: ↑

The Asian Tyson - Khaosai Galaxy
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sarcasm?

LockDog387 · Feb 17, 2009

Manny Pacquiao

catasyou · Feb 17, 2009

Winslow Wong.

HyperBone · Feb 17, 2009

this guy

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Monstar · Feb 17, 2009

HyperBone said: ↑

this guy

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