Who is the greatest British boxer of all time?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who is the greatest British boxer of all time?

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  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wasn't aware that Turpin shot himself age 37.
     
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  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson knocks out Turpin, in the States, in their rematch. Turpin beat the Great Robinson - first time out.

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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe
     
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  5. TBooze

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    The Mighty Atom, and by a country mile if you say Fitzsimoons is not British.
     
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  6. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe
     
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  7. GazOC

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    Fitz pre-war, Lennox post-war.
     
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  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fitz was a truly odd-looking bloke...not the kind of person you'd pick out as a heavyweight champ, but nevertheless he was.
     
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  9. TFFP

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    Fitzsimmons
    Wilde
    Lewis
    Lewis

    That is my top 4, set in stone. Its hard to choose between the two Lewis's. Then I regard the likes of Lynch, Buchanan, Driscoll as in the tier below.
     
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  10. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not many votes for Fitzsimmons considering he was boxing first ever 3 division champ - Middle weight - Heavy weight - and Light Heavyweight. Fair old while ago though.

    Going on achievments also, surly "The Leamington Licker's" beating of Sugar Ray Robinson, in the 50's, far out weighs anything Lewis or Calzaghe ever did, imo; yet no votes.

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    Away from achievments, if your going on skill, talent, and technique alone - Buchanon must rank pretty highly up there, imho.
     
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  11. TFFP

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    One swallow doesn't make a summer though, does it? It's difficult to rank him above guys that have been consistently great, even if it is SRR.

    Frustratingly inconsistent.
     
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  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Oh ****. I agree with TFFP.:patsch;)
     
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  13. TFFP

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    You should agree with me more often. You are correct by default.
     
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  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hardley a swallow though is it - beating the GOAT. It's more of a Golden Goose.;)

    It also depends on what you class as a swallow...

    I agree with both of you in a way though!

    I don't know a huge amount about all of them, and that's partly the reason why I started this thread - to pick up a little more.

    People do look at the say the records of Buchanan for example, and go... oh he only held the title for so long - therefore he didn't achieve great heights, and was not consistent. The thing is though, is that there were far fewer titles, and the men holding those titles were exceptional...
     
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  15. TFFP

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    I think the last point you touched upon is always key to these debates. Modernists will claim that everyone is biased in favour of older fighters, but the simple facts of the matter are they fought more regularly (and hence had greater scope to fight more meaningful fights) and the belts were more meaningful in themselves.

    Hence you have only Lewis and possibly Calzaghe on the very fringes of a top 10, from this era

    Always have to laugh when the classic "training methods" argument is trotted out. Yes, because you have a tin of Whey you are far superior and fitter to guys that fight 20 rounds a dozen times a year.
     
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