Who is the greatest heavyweight boxer that ever lived,Ali,Joe Louis Or Rocky Marciano

A fact because you say so? You havent proven a thing or rebutted anything Ive pointed out. :rofl

 

You can't teach wisdom to a fool

 

Obviously. I dont know why ive even bothered trying. I wise man can defend his points where as a fool will continue to spout "FACT" without ever making one. :think

 

I think you mean 'A wise man' thank you for confirming my point

 

... "cruiserweight of all time"
Sorry the superheavyweights are here to stay.

 

Cant argue points but wants to play grammer police. Is that like you claiming to be a boxing "****ysis"?

 

Everyone on here '****yses' boxing it's what we do

 

What exactly you need to be explained? That you find all type of exuses for everyone other then Klitschko name, an excuse for their lose ?
Lose is a lose, you cant do a s*** about it. Lewis was KO cold, but he is 1 of the greatest, as well is top 3 in H2H.
And i say it again, sometimes, get this word sometimes its better to get beaten that way, to see your weakness, and see where you make mistakes, and to get better and improve, then being schooled 12 rounds and see that you are not the better boxer.

And Klitschko with Manny 2007 - 2012 was a prime Klitschko in both physical, mentaly, tactical, smartness in the ring and in all aspect you can have in boxing.
Both Klitschko and Lewis was KTFO, but that only help them, they change coach, they change their style and simply become better, and exactly for Klitschko he become a lot more better, then he was.
You can have your opinion on who is the Gratest, but so do i, this is personal matter, and everyone can have a diffierent point.
You can make a case for a top dogs, like Lewis, Ali, Louis, even for Tyson in his prime.
But if Klitschko break that 25 defences record, you can simply make a case for him as well.
And the loses is part of the game. I will go further and say they show what heart and character you have. To be at the top, then goes straight to the bottom, and then climb the long road back to the top and stay there for 10 straight years ....
A lot of guys was simply beaten and replaced by better boxer, Klitschko was beat, but not deafeated, not replaced, he come back and rule the HW division for so long.

 

Great post don't agree with you about Lennox Lewis but everything else was spot on

 

If they ever bring back 15 round fights, say goodbye to the "Super" Heavyweights...

 

I wish they would but it's never gunna happen

 

Says who? The Klitschko fanboi's? Who did he beat in that period? How is he not prime from 2006 to now? Why do people say he was at his best against Mercer , Wach and Pulev?

Wlad never stepped in that ring under prepared or past his prime.

He was in his prime even when he got blasted out by Ross Purrity.

Khan was taken out by Presscot early in his career. That loss still sticks. You CAN'T erase a loss.

This not prime bull**** excuse making won't wash. He was prime going into those fights weather you like it or not.

Nobody who was around at the time thought Wlad was not his his prime and was about to lose. He was beaten by huge under dogs every time.
Accept it.

 

Yeah if you include guys like chuck wepner. The only elite fighter Ali faced who was taller than him was Foreman. A young stupid Foreman. The late 30s foreman takes that Ali to school.

Ali was a big HW for his time. He relied heavily on that advantage. A lesser fighter like Norton was able to beat Ali and give him a hell of a fight in 2 close decisions because he had the reach to take advantage of Ali's technical limitations. Block the jab and counter jab all night long. Ali has no defense for it.

 

funny coming from the guy who was trying to teach everyone what a fact was, only to find he was wrong.

 

Ali beat undisputed world champion George froeman. If you think Foreman was stupid for getting beat by that one guy whilst flattening all the others, then its obviously to something you'd say to his face cos he'd know you're wrong.

ALI also thoroughly beat up 6 foot 6 inch world champion Terrell, plus a whole slew of fighters of height similar or same to ali.


With this in mind, why you jiving about Chuck Wepner? fool.