Who is the greatest heavyweight boxer that ever lived,Ali,Joe Louis Or Rocky Marciano

Foreman would be the first to tell you that the Foreman who fought Ali was young and stupid. You are obviously young and stupid because I have yet to meet a man past his early 30s who does not think that they were young and stupid in their 20s.

He beat up who? You mean the guy who won a vacant title? And if you are going to make a point about my wepner example don't use a guy who lost to wepner as a counter argument.

The point stands.

 

Where Norton and Frazier beat Ali, and he beat them in return fights... Purrity and Sanders and Brewster all stopped Wlad.

 

mhuahaha!

Vitali threw the fight against bryd so that Wlad could pick up the belt????? and then spent a year out wasting his career with a fake injury to back up his fakery? awesome klitaaard post.

yes honestly, it never occurred to anyone ...except klitaards.

 

While Lewis did rematch and beat both McCall and Rahman...and he gets credit for that, they kod him first.

 

And lastly, size doesn't matter in boxing when the very best face each other.

 

very good.

now if you could explain the non existence of the gulf between losing instantly in seconds to a retired nobody (sanders vs wlad) and Louis losing to former world HW champ Shmeling, it would be good.

I'm asking you a third time.

 

Ali
Louis
Lewis

are my top 3 in that order.

 

Doesn't mean anything styles make fights. Wald is a 10 times better Norton. Block the jab counter jab. Ali has no answer for it. He never did. Not in the first Norton fight not in the 3rd Norton fight.

Norton was not in Ali's league. But he had the physical gifts and game plan to give Ali hell. Same game plan better gifts and a better fighter and Ali loses.

 

Yeah, Purrity sanders and Brewster weren't in Wlad's league either and they knocked him out. Stopped him. The difference is "will" between Ali and wlad. And I hope that you're talking about the best Ali. Because if you want me to use the Wlad who struggled in fights, I can do the same with Wlad.

 

Wlads will was broken against Purrity where Ali's will helped him defeat Frazier in fight 3. Ali being put down by Coopers helacious hook...he got up and walked to his corner. Wlad was put down by sanders in round 2 and couldn't get out of the way of sanders speed and left hand. I can use many examples between these two. Many!

 

Will is really over rated.

Look I'm not saying that Wald is a better HW than Ali. But H2H he is all wrong. He is a way better Norton.

Ali has serious technical limitations that manifest themselves when he doesn't have the height advantage.

You have yet to address the issue.

Block the jab and counter jab all night long. Ali has no answer for it.

 

Ali got up from Frazier's left hook in fight I and finished on his feet losing. Wlad got up from Brewsters hook after he emptied his ****nal on Brewster and they cried he was poisoned. Wlad can reach 25 defenses by beating um...but he won't be the greatest ever. He will be top 10.

 

Use prime Ali. Prime Ali was a fighting dancing machine. You can use Ali's flaws in certain fights and when you do, then people will do the same with Wlad. Wlad couldn't put Haye away, so what makes you think that he's all wrong for Ali?

 

I agree with that, Will Smith was an overrated Ali

 

only if you are stupid in your 20s are you young and stupid.

you should get out more if you've not met guys who weren't stupid.

a champion. what is your problem with champions?

who lost to wepner when he was retiring? haha flop mate. Still a good way to go out for the NABF title though, no?
Oh that tells us that Wepner was an NABF champion, which furher undermines your jibe about Chuck....
YOU are destroying your OWN arguments!

it does to you, because you are standing on your head. get up.