Who is the greatest heavyweight boxer that ever lived,Ali,Joe Louis Or Rocky Marciano

Stop giving Wlad excuses for his losses. He was a gold medalist. His being in his prime or not had nothing to do with his losses.

 

To this issue of TKOs. Refs stop fights a lot quicker today than they used to.

In 1963 Wlad is allowed to keep fighting against Sanders.

In 2003 Cooper TKOs Ali.

 

you mean continue to get floored and beaten up by retiree sanders.

hoe does he tko him, the bell rang after he survived the knockdown?

are you claiming that the ref would order a tko during the interval?

 

Ali was out on his feet and on the stool. Today the ref would have stood him up saw how wobbly he was and called off the fight round or not.

No way that fight is allowed to continue in the present era.

 

if ali was out on his feet, how does he straight walk to his stool in response to the bell?
Yeh, you lied.
so why did you lie? let us know.

the bell rang straight after the knockdown and ali got straight up and walked right back to his corner.
how can a ref stop a fight outside the round if the fighter is able to walk fine? How does the ref get to stop a fight where the fighter is acting clearly and coherently?

But Clearly you wanted it stopped so that you claim an ali loss.
And it was stopped, green ali destroyed prime cooper in less time after that than shot2shyte corrie took to stop prime wlad.

Wlad was clearly getting knocked all over the place. The ref stopped it to preserve wlads health. Clearly you wanted wlad to suffer more of a beating so as to shorten his career.

no way you watched the fight properly.

 

Him being able to stagger not walk towards your corner does not mean you are not out on your feet.

Why you lie?

He was so out of it that Dundee had to come out and guide him to the corner, automatic DQ right there FYI. Then Dundee cut his glove to give him extra time to recover.

Ali was not fine, he was not clear or coherent.

You are lying your ass off.

As to the rest of your post now you are just getting stupid because we'll you are stupid. I'm not disagreeing with the stoppage. I'm a proponent of Refs protecting fighters. I'm only giving examples of how it is stupid to compare a modern TKO to knockouts in Ali's era.

 

how do you get up, respond to the bell by walking straight line to your corner, if you are out on your feet?

how many times do you have to be told he walked back straight.
let me know so I can cut and paste it x amount of times. You know for a fact ali had awesome recovery.

that's been debunked by time keepers, so you are actually lying now.

course he was not fine, no one claims he had. He'd just been floored.
Why did you even write "ali was not fine" when no one is claiming he was fine- are you that desperate to convince readers that there is an argument you are winning that you had to invent an argument for yourself to win? lol. ok. but you are fooling no one. quit the lies.

again, I ask you to tell me where.

people who disagree with your lies are not stupid, they just disagree with you.

 

You just discredited yourself from this conversation lol...

 

What fight was this lol...? The pressure of this argument is punishing you mentally to no end lol.

 

Ali Cooper 1963 you dumb ****.

No way a ref let's Ali continue in the modern era. Simply different times. You cant compare a modern TKO to the 60s.

 

hes asking which fight because you've not seen it properly, didn't you take the hint? he knows the fight.

Now, to Wlad. in his prime with every advantage handed to him over a shot2shyte retired non-achiever from the lewis era, he got wiped out in seconds.
there is no excuse for such paucity in a champion picking a retiree for a title defence, let alone being instantly destroyed by him. don't invent one.

 

I'm sorry but NO...

 

You've never seen a guy pop up like Ali did and still be out of it? **** you are stupid. You will say anything to win an argument.

You can tell me as many times as you want. I'm not listening to you I'm watching the film.

No you are just stupid. The time keeper only said that he wasn't instructed to stop time. That doesn't mean the ref didn't give Dundee time to fix the glove. Which you can clearly see happening in the corner. Tape don't lie Ali was given 1:40. That is way long.

Do I need to quote your dumbass.

"fighter is able to walk fine? How does the ref get to stop a fight where the fighter is acting clearly and coherently?"

The one lying here is you. You are trying to make it seem that Ali jumped up strolled to the corner and that's that.

Modern era Ali isn't allowed to stagger to the stool. Dundee isn't allowed to enter the ring and help him.

The ref would stand Ali up take one look at how wobbly he was and call the fight. He would not be allowed to dump himself on the stool without showing the ref that he was okay.

Furthermore while they were ready banned in the UK, another DQ that was missed in this whole event, smelling salts are now banned so in the modern era Ali does not manage to recover.

Modern era Ali Cooper is a TKO. AND YOU ****ING KNOW IT!!!

 

Think what you will but do you think a late 30s Foreman would be stupid enough to punch himself out?

 

be more likely to run out of gas, given the significantly reduced lung power of the late 30something compared to 20something