Who is the greatest heavyweight boxer that ever lived,Ali,Joe Louis Or Rocky Marciano

To argue what? You said that someone is a moron if he doesn't think that Ali could beat a dominant, present longtime champion in Wladimir Klitchko. And I ironically called that a hugely intellectual statement.

What exactly do you want me to argue there?

 

Grow up

 

Yea and they are both better then Ken norton who beat Muhammad Ali at least twice the k bro's don't need gift decisions either

 

Both Klitchkos beat Ali pretty much the same way Norton did. Block his jab and jab counter. Take away Ali's jab and disrupt his rythm.

 

Maybe you should watch fights in their entirety before making a baseless claim.

 

About CONSTAR don't want no part of it looooool:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

You should re read my post again. I said they would be a moron fo think Ali couldnt beat Vits and an idiot to think he wouldnt have a shot with Wlad. And while i think Ali beats both, Wlad is the much tougher fight. Do you really think Vits could beat Ali? If so, why?

 

Vitali beats Ali because he is better

 

Prime Tyson :hey

 

I thought that you were referring that to Wladimir.

We probably don't share the same thoughts on Ali's abilities, but I agree that Wladimir would be more difficult for him.

Vitali was a lot taller than Ali, and had longer reach as well. Considering that, together with the jab, intelligence and overall skills of Vitali, I definitely think that he could have beaten Ali on both boxers' best day. Now, evaluating both guys' chances in that match is a different thing, and probably up for a further debate.

 

Lol, thats your breakdown as an "****ysis"? Why was he not better than Byrd? How would you argue Ali not being better than Byrd in every aspect? As an "****ysis" surely you have a stronger argument than "he is just better".

 

Vitali is easily better then Byrd despite the loss but I wouldn't expect you to understand

 

Ali beat plenty of fighters taller than him. My problem with envisioning a Vits win was his struggle with Byrd. Ali is better in every catagory than Byrd. If Chris can come over seas on a weeks notice and keep a fight as close as he did (the score cards do not reflect how close the fight was. Byrd was able to back Vits up, make him miss more than any and only landed 8 less punches in spite of giving up so much weight and height) its easy to see a far better prime Ali outlanding and avoiding Vits with ease. Of courde non of this can be proven, but its a logical deduction in my opinon.

 

He did not back vitali up vitali was trying to walk him on to punches and the scorecards were accurate as vitali was clearly winning

 

Instead of going to boxrec, actually watch the fight. Vits only landed 8 more punches the entire fight despite being 6" taller and 35lbs heavier. If he really thought he was better he would have sought the rematch instead of letting lil bro handle the more difficult style for him. Ali is much better than Byrd in every department. Whats your next argument, Byrd is better than Ali to? :yep