Who is the greatest HW of the last 25 years?

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Lewis is probably THE most overrated fighter on this site - certainly the most overrated HW. That this poll is so lopsided in his favor shows that clearly.

    Holyfield was the best HW since Larry Holmes. Never saw him starched by second-raters, and he faced the other top guys of the era when they were formidable opponents, not when they were ready to be taken.
     
    Zakman, Jun 17, 2008
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  2. pelican

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    :good i actually couldnt believe the result of this poll. 55% for lewis? lol! that shows how really overrated lewis is. when in fact holyfield faced better opposition than lewis or tyson. foreman in 91, though obviously ancient, was still a force back then (in fact, tyson wanted no part of him after his confindence was shattered by douglas), and was better than any of the guys lewis fought in a title match. bowe of 92-93 was better than any of the fighters lewis had ever fought. and also, he beat the power punching mercer more soundly that lewis did.
     
    pelican, Jun 17, 2008
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  3. pelican

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    also, holy beat a better tyson
     
    pelican, Jun 17, 2008
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  4. pelican

    pelican Guest

    and also, lewis was counted out twice in a title match.
     
    pelican, Jun 17, 2008
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  5. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Um, no. George was carefully matched, and old. he was far from a force.

    He wasn't ****, but he was far away from being a force.


    He was obviously better than Holyfield too wasn't he?

    He beat Mercer better than Lewis did? So what? Really want to go down the whole "if A beats B.." path?

    Holy didn't defend his title for more than 3 consecutive wins. That is simply not a dominant fighter.
     
    thesandman, Jun 18, 2008
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  6. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    While Tyson held the PHYSICAL advantages over Lewis...Lewis held the technical advantages over him.

    You speak of the Tyson from the 80's and early 90's, yet ignore that tho he was (and I am not even attempting at arguing this point) more dominant in his reign, his domination came against MUCH lesser competition. Put Lewis vs anyone that Tyson beat during that period and he wins every single fight as well.

    Im not knocking Tyson at all...just stating facts about his career (his resume is weaker than the rest of the people in this poll....BY A LARGE MARGIN)...I truely believe he is one of the greatest HW's of all time...but not higher than anyone on this list...and I also feel that Lewis beats Tyson 9 out 10 times...

    I would also like to state that I was a MUCH bigger Tyson fan than I ever was a Lewis fan...so Im not speaking out of fandom, rather what my two eyes see.
     
    sues2nd, Jun 18, 2008
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  7. Gavin

    Gavin Member Full Member

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    I'd pick Lewis in terms of achievments i.e. Olympic Gold medal, avenging both defeats, three time Heavyweight champion etc.

    For pure skill I'd have Tyson though, his speed, defence and especially his power were just unreal.
     
    Gavin, Jun 18, 2008
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  8. Jetset78

    Jetset78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Tyson
    2. Holmes
    3. Holyfield
    4. Lewis
     
    Jetset78, Jun 18, 2008
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  9. pelican

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    then name any opponent lewis had in a title match who was better tahn 91 george. foreman was the most formidable contender in 91. remember that old george would become a linear champ again in 94 by beating moorer

    no. he beat bowe in a rematch. now, name any opponent in lewis resume who was better than bowe P4P and H2h.


    holy beat mercer better than lewis did. thats a fact and that says a lot.


    defends on how you define dominant. if the case at bar was, who betwen lewis and holy faced and beat the better opposition, id say its holyfield.

    holy fought and beat MORE established fighters than lewis had in his resume.

    foreman
    bowe
    better tyson
     
    pelican, Jun 18, 2008
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  10. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis by default, because You cut Holmes' prime in half. Extend it to 30 yrs. and it's Holmes easy. A couple of bad decisions aside, Holmes never really lost until the Tyson fight, when he was way past his prime.
     
    la-califa, Jun 18, 2008
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  11. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    tyson transcended boxing into another level, he brought boxing into the consciousness of NON-BOXING fans...cant say those to lewis, holmes etc...
     
    hooligan, Jun 18, 2008
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  12. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis, followed by Holyfield.
     
    PATSYS, Jun 18, 2008
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  13. schuey100

    schuey100 Member Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
    schuey100, Jun 18, 2008
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  14. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    WTF?

    Who are all these kids appearing out of the woodwork jizzing over Tyson?!? :lol:

    I can only hope it's one deluded fool with a bunch of aliases.
     
    Drexl, Jun 18, 2008
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  15. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really hadn't realized how underrated Holmes is, and the opposite for Lewis.
     
    Marciano Frazier, Jun 18, 2008
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