Who is the greatest living boxing historian?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by On The Money, Sep 5, 2017.



  1. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,550
    14,105
    Apr 4, 2012
    I'm watching the late great Bert Sugar and thinking who is left? Larry Merchant?
     
    Sangria likes this.
  2. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

    8,887
    3,507
    Nov 13, 2010
    The more I know about Bert Sugar, the less a fan of his I am. I don't hate the guy but he embellishes the so called urban legends and stories that were simply not true. I guess it's a way to enhance the business.

    Anyways, Hank Kaplan is solid. Is he even still around?
     
    Thread Stealer likes this.
  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,185
    13,749
    Aug 26, 2017
    As long as Jim Lampley isn't named as a great boxing Historian or announcer for that matter .. I'm good .. Curious to know what people think of Teddy Atlas???
     
    Contro likes this.
  4. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,185
    13,749
    Aug 26, 2017
    oh ya .. I'm not a fan of Larry Merchant either
     
    Contro and The Morlocks like this.
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,855
    5,366
    Feb 26, 2009
    Bert Sugar was not good... He knew old fighters who were popular, but boxing he was sort of just a repeater of what everyone said.. I liked him. Met him and his cigar in his mouth thing was interesting.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,855
    5,366
    Feb 26, 2009
    Al Bernstein has always impressed me.... and a guy like Gil Clancy was very good.. Eddie Futch.
     
    Pat M and Saintpat like this.
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,413
    20,244
    Jun 26, 2009
    Hank Kaplan was up until he passed in 2007, IMO.
     
    Sangria likes this.
  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    29,305
    7,472
    Feb 11, 2005
    Patrick Conner is pretty solid.
     
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    29,550
    14,105
    Apr 4, 2012
    Like him or not he was either friends with or had talked to just about every legend in the game and had anecdotes aplenty. I wish I'd met him.
     
  10. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,537
    5,494
    Sep 8, 2013
    I sat next to him at the Roy Jones-Tony Thornton fight at MSG. He was a bit of a blow hard. But, pretty funny. And you couldn't deny he loved the sport and was a true boxing icon.
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,490
    Jan 30, 2014
    Agreed.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

    48,248
    35,052
    Apr 27, 2005
    Teddy Atlas and Don Turner.
     
  13. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    10,974
    5,331
    Feb 10, 2013
    Bert Sugar wasnt a historian he was a promoter. A promoter who promoted himself. He had his schtick and he told a good story but a LOT of what he told was just that, STORIES. He didnt care to get to the truth of the matter. When he ran the Ring (into the ground) he relied on Herb Goldman for historical perspective and if you know Goldmans take on "history" youll likely agree thats marginally better than what Sugar had to offer. Calling Lampley and Atlas historians is laughable. Some of the best boxing historians alive today youve never heard of because they arent out there pretending to be know-it-alls to get five minutes on espn, or the occasional 30 second interview on someones boxing documentary but there at least a few guys alive who forgot more history before their morning coffee today than atlas, lampley, and sugar combined ever knew.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

    48,248
    35,052
    Apr 27, 2005
    We should fish together :D
     
  15. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

    879
    589
    Jul 23, 2010
    Klompton, of the living boxing authors, who do you believe are the most knowledgeable?