Who is the greatest Mexican ...Marquez Barrera or Erik?

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  1. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Morales
    Barrera
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  2. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morales
     
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  3. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morales.
     
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  4. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    WTF, EM had the most balls against PAC and beat him on the first fight CONVINCINGLY. Barrera ran like a bytch on the 2nd fight and JMM would not engage. EM was fighting to win and take PAC's head off.
     
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  5. fitzgeraldz

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    Morales
    more skill, more power, more will to win, and more savvy ...

    he's beaten every guy that Barrera has lost to and has better level of competition than Marquez.

    His only L's came to Barerra, Pacquiao, Diaz, and Raheem ... Diaz and Raheem were lightweights and were naturally bigger than Morales.
    You can dispute all 3 fights with Barerra even though he got a win ... he probably shouldve taken 2 of the 3.
    He lost convincingly to PacMan but by then he was already finished.

    I like Morales alot more than the other two...

    He had a great jab ... great right hand ... great head and shoulder movement ... good foot work ... all around great fighter.

    He's up there with Sanchez and Chavez ... not as many fights but he did what he accomplished alot before the age of 30. Alot more than any fighter i've seen. You count in a DLH and PBF ... but they never been in as many wars.

    I wish he wouldn't have retired ... just took some time off between fights and regrouped instead jumping back into the trenches.
     
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  6. fitzgeraldz

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    I agree Morales ... went out on his shield and had no regrets ... he never ran and gave as much as he could. He never once thought just about surviving and finishing like Barerra ... no morale victories for Morales ... the only victories that mattered to him was an actual "W"....
     
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  7. fitzgeraldz

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    You see how Barrera tried to call it quits after the Pacquiao fight and no one gave a **** ... all his fans abandon'd him and didn't want **** to do with that man. He bitched up ... I don't think it was ever in his nature to go out like a man ... I don't even know why he took the second fight with Pacquiao to begin with.

    It didn't make any sense ... he knew that he wasn't going to win all he wanted to do was finish... I was pissed that I paid $50 for that **** ...
    that was the weakest performance ever ... more people wouldve respected him if he wouldve got knocked out !!

    Morales wanted the 3rd fight at a catch weight since he had trouble making 130 and shouldn't have taken the 2nd fight at 130 but hey ... it happened and its over now ... but I think a fight at 135 wouldve been too much of an advantage for Morales ...

    Shame on Arum for not respecting Morales and knowing the situation.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Mar 16, 2008
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  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Marquez
    Morales
    Barrera

    In that order.
     
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  9. Lar Janus

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    Its hard to compare careers that've spanned several weight classes over the course of 15+ years...esp considering these guys didn't all fight each other in their primes. A post-prime JMM decisively beat an old MAB who...basically went even-up w/EM (w/some mileage on him) over 3 fights.
     
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  10. fitzgeraldz

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    Morales - soldier, great boxer, cocky, savvy, and quality opposition - I wish he would come back, he's only like 30 or 31
    Marquez - soldier, great boxer, tough
    Barrera - he went out like a ***** against PacMan the second time and that killed his legacy to me.
     
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  11. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Morales is who I like the most. But I think it has to be barrera.
     
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  12. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    He also beat MAB and is a two division world champoin.
     
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  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    1. Barrera
    2. Marquez
    3. Morales
     
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  14. Chileno606

    Chileno606 Gentleman & Scholar Full Member

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    Marquez
     
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  15. Daft P

    Daft P Active Member Full Member

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    Very difficult to tell, but I would consider Marquez as the best of the three. I think he could have won against Erik as well.
     
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