Who is the greatest Mexican ...Marquez Barrera or Erik?

In accomplishments, Marquez is far behind Barrera and Morales.

Barrera and Morales have similar achievements, but Barrera winning their trilogy make me have Barrera higher in All Time lists.

 

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MAB had best resume except both Pac & Jones beat him very convincingly and he was unable to avenge the loss. The fight with JMM was close and id pick prime MAB over prime JMM. Morales beat both Pac & MAB aswell as a list of B levels and 3 weight world champ, i pick him as the best. JMM lost to guys like Norwood & Chris John when he was close to his prime, he beat an aged Barrera(whom Pac gets 0 credit for as he was old by then) and drew with Pac and lost 1. Resume wise he falls behind and even head2head id pick the other 2 over him, specially Erik.

 

Could've been JMM with his skills. He just hasn't done enough at this point and time.

 

THe NOrwood fight I understand, but please don't mention the John/JMM sham unless you really saw the fight and feel that
Marquez really lost.

It that's the case then I'll have to respect your opinion!

 

It's not Barrera...

 

^^because he's (MAB) a sore loser and a dirty fighter?!?:hey

 

Morales
Marquez

Barrera

The way MAB ran from Juarez in the rematch and the way he went out with a wimper in the Pac rematch dropped him down to third on my list.

 

morales

 

Not chin. Ring skills yes not chin. Morales chin was godly in his prime.

 

He shouldn't be penalized for his performance against Juarez: he won and won convincingly. It was a beautiful left handed display from Barrera (left jabs, left uppercuts, left hooks upstairs and downstairs).

And he shouldn't be penalized for running a bit against Pacquiao. He's given so much of himself to the sport and given the fans absolutely thrilling fights. He wanted to survive and last the distance. Who would want to get knocked out in their final fight?

If you weigh this based on accomplishments, Morales and Barrera are clearly a notch above Marquez. They've beaten more world champions, had more significant wins, and won titles in 3 divisions each. But if you weigh in based on head to head ability, you can almost argue for either one. I would put Marquez at the top in this category, as I feel he's slightly more versatile than Barrera and a better technical boxer/counterpuncher.

 

I couldnt disagree more, how you fight is almost as important as if you win or lose.

Look at how EM and Marquez lost to Pac, they fought with heart and courage and didnt run, that counts alot in my book.

MAB not onlt taped his gloves nearly up to his gloves in Juarez rematch but he jabbed and ran like Fraud Mayrunner, then he ran to survive in Pac rematch. . . like I said he went out with a whimper - Morales went out on his shield. Easy decision for me.

 

If that Barerra-Juarez rematch was on broadcast TV it still would have sucked, through no fault of Juarez...

Barrera as much as admitted to Juarez not being worthy of a real fight with him...which is why he claims he wouldn't fight his trademark style.

That was a $50 joke he played on his fans. :verysad

...and I payed for it so I have a right to say, he can kiss my ass.

 

Erik Morales was the best of the 3 for me .....

I believe in their primes that Erik Morales would have knocked Marquez out ...

The three amazing fights with Barerra which I feel he won 2 out of 3.... 1st & 2nd fight

He's also the only one of the three to convincgly beat Pacman when he beat Pacman in their first fight

not to mention alot of people feel that he beat David Diaz at 135 for the title but didn't get the nod from the judges

 

It looks like you don't appreciate smart tactical boxers and prefer every fighter to be full steam ahead.