Who is the greatest Mexican ...Marquez Barrera or Erik?

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  1. Nawfal

    Nawfal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    morales easily for me
     
  2. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    How you fight is very important. And yes you can make a case for a guy being an excellent fighter not just based on wins and losses. This understanding is what forces people to mention JMM in the same breath as these other guys that have much more accomplished records. But I think for you people trying to say that Marquez is the more technically versatile or skilled boxer and thus would beat EM or MAB prime for prime are not considering everything that is "How you fight". Prime MAB and prime EM fought with intangibles that Marquez just doesn't display. Like the fierce will to win. MAB lost this as his career wound down but for those of you who don't think that he had an incredible will to win and bravery watch the Kennedy McKinney fight. Its one of the best fights I have ever seen and I cannot imagine a guy like Marquez winning it. Watch it you'll know what I mean. Much the same way as Israel Vazquez is not as technically skilled or versatile as Rafael Marquez yet he gets beat by him JMM might be more skilled then Morales but he doesn't have the intangibles to win against him.

    Marquez and Barrera in their prime were amazing fighters. Personally, I wouldn't even argue that they were that much worse technically then JMM they just fought in a different way. But what they did they were arguably just as technical or "good at" as JMM is at counter punching and tactical boxing.
     
  3. nighthunter

    nighthunter Active Member Full Member

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    1.Morales=Barrera




    Marquez
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Ummmm, doesnt the conversation for greatest Mexican fighter start and end with Julio Caesar Chavez???

    Of the list tho, I would go JMM, Barerra, then Morales on skill. Barerra, Morales, then JMM on accomplishments.
     
  5. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    Morales
    Barrera












    Marquez
     
  6. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks.
     
  7. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barrera, because he's the only man to ever beat Naseem Hamed.
     
  8. right_hook_roye

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  9. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hamed would be a very dangerous fight for pac, i could easily see manny getting ko'd.
     
  10. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I could also see Morales getting KOed, which is saying something. If Kevin Kelly and Augie Sanchez had styles that made for great fights with Hamed, just think how unbelievable a Hamed v Pac or a Hamed v morales would have been. I think those fights would have had the potential to make for a "fight of the decade" type war. I could probably lean towards prime Hamed in these fights but they would be epic and close, whoever won.

    Marquez beats Hamed the same as Barrera. Maybe not quite as bad but he still wins.
     
  11. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Barrera no doubt.