Who is the greatest middleweight you'd take Sumbu Kalambay to beat?

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  1. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Hey folks

    I threw in my first ESB Classic opinion on the recent Conteh thread but this'll be my first thread started, so here goes :!:

    Kalambay gets his dues amongst people in the know but seems to have been either somewhat forgotten by the casual observer or dismissed due to the flukey blowout against Nunn. Of the last 25 years or so, few have been his equal as a pure boxer IMHO on ability alone.

    So who is the greatest middleweight, either record-wise or H2H, you'd take him to beat?
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hagler! :yep:good
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I honestly think he could beat Hopkins on his best night. In a fight where scoring shots would be at a premium, I think Sumbu could give Nard at a lot of problems with his style.

    Really he is the exact kind of fighter Tiger would loathe fighting..but Im not sure Im brave enough to pick him there.

    I think he possibly beats Griffith and Fullmer in the 12 round era.

    A very underrated fighter..good thread Tin_Ribs
     
  4. Tin_Ribs

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    Brave call pal but not unreasonable :hey. Hagler was one of the names I first thought of (probably irrationally) along with Dick Tiger. Sumbu would have been an interesting stylistic challenge for Marv no doubt: he may well have pulled it out, especially against the fading version of the mid-eighites. But 15 rounds is long time against Hagler, who was no slouch himself in the skills department in that he was such a balanced and well-rounded fighter.
     
  5. Tin_Ribs

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    Cheers sir, good reply :thumbsup. Agreed on Hopkins; counterpunchers were never his strongest suit if they gave him nothing to feed off. Ditto for Tiger who could be troubled by movers, Giardello and Archer proving this that to a certain extent.

    Griffith struggling with LMR supports the notion that Kalambay could pull a fast one over 12 rounds, but Emile was a brilliant 15 round fighter, one of the definitive fighter's in that regard.
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    Kalambay's win over Mike McCallum is very possibly the greatest boxing performance I've ever seen. It's certainly a live contender for that award. I think on his night he could potentially beat anyone who has ever fought at middleweight, if he really hit that height again. But in general terms, I could see Monzon imposing his game on Sumbu and defeating him most times. Sumbu would give Hagler a torrid evening though. At his peak, Marvin may be marvellous enough to overcome what I'd view as somewhat of a stylistic disadvantage, but I can envisage Kalambay winning that one as often as not.
     
  7. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I often think why they havent put him in the hall of fame, the guy was a great fighter
     
  8. teeto

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    I like the names put forth already in Tiger and Griffith in terms of the styles match-up, im also not going to say outright that he'd beat Tiger, who you could see turning it around. But with Giardello's efforts against him, and as has been afforementioned in Rodriguez against Griffith at the lower weight you could see it. But these are great fighters who could win fights regardless of a bad styles match-up.
     
  9. teeto

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    I would pick Hagler over him personally though, even if he has to come adversity.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Ummmm.....he's not a great 'middle' but a great fighter I would pick him to beat at 160 is Leonard............uh, I also think he would be a nightmare for Hopkins...but that Hop would just about prevail.

    I'm assuming you guys are on the same wavelength as me; Nunn caught him cold? I also think people are unfair to call Nunn feather-fisted, is that a fair statement?
     
  11. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    William Joppy.

    Nunn was actually a very underrated bodypuncher.Brutal uppercuts to the body whipped in with great leverage.I thnk his problem was he barely really threw with conviction, rather than being a true featherfist.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    If he's on his best night when Robinson/Hagler/Monzon are not at their best he could make a huge name scalp or 2
     
  13. Bill Butcher

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    Michael Nunn..... Oops !

    Might have to go with the Robinson that lost to Archer now ;)
     
  14. teeto

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    The Robinson that lost to Archer! Not asking for too much stipulations there eh?!
     
  15. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tiger and Toney would be interesting to see him against Hagler.