Who is the greatest NON-ATG Fighter in your book?

Has anyone mentioned Dwight Muhammad Qawi?

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...st-pound-for-pound-boxers-of-all-time/page/15

http://www.***********.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267810

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_80_best.htm

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Someone sounds pretty mad. I already admitted I didn't know anything about Harada's career except for his fight with Jofre. I admitted that and just wanted to see how you can compare Harada to Pacquaio, it took you forever to respond back to me with an answer, got mad.. called me an idiot for not knowing anyone of Harada's fights besides Jofre when most people don't.. yet you're using stupid analogies on Floyd's career and said Harada was on par Pac.

 

Dude posts a list with Harada and no Pacquiao on it :rofl :rofl

 

Orlando Canizales. Great counter-puncher, awesome footwork ...

 

Dude posts a list with Harada and no Pacquiao on it :rofl :rofl

 

Good list. Is that McClellan at middle ?

 

I didn't really read all the participants on those lists, I showed you that because you said Trinidad wasn't top 100 when I've provided you with 3 respective websites saying otherwise. Pacquaio, along with Floyd are 2 of the newest ATG's to come out of this generation. Generally, you're not going to find too many official sites with them on their lists since they're still active. I knew you were stupid, but not this stupid.

 

Those lists were ****ing awful. You call me stupid yet you post another list that only chronicles a span of 80 years limited to 80 fighters and you admit you didn't even read them atsch

 

Knowledge about Pacquiao's career > everyone else you've ever bothered to follow. :conf

 

Please, define ATG...

While we're at it, you'd be welcome to also define fighter.

What's a Riddick Bowe, by the way ?

 

Well he isn't. He beat one ATG, Pac beat 3 prime ATG's and several HOF's. He won titles in 2 weight classes, pac won 7..(I don't count the 154 title). He wasn't even close to the best fighter of his generation or decade, Pac was. You already showed me why Harada should be on par with Pac yet I'm not impressed. His achievements don't hold a candle to Pacquaio's achievements. Your analogy for Floyd was horrible though. He was already in the decline with the Marquez fight and the reason why he's slowed down slightly is due to his inactivity only fighting once a year, not his age. You were arguing saying Hopkins wasn't the same fighter anymore during the Taylor fight when he accomplished a lot after that fight and was a year shy of his second biggest fight. I mean, how the **** are you gonna know about random fighters who Harada faced yet not know about fighters from this generation. It's insane.

 

Qawi was truely amazing. Thanks for mentioning him.

 

What the **** are you talking about? You stated Trinidad wasn't in the top 100 ATG list.. I already knew Trinidad was an ATG because I followed his career since the Whitaker fight. Obviously you wouldn't take my word for it, so I went to google and typed in "top 100 best boxers of all time" the first 3 websites that I looked at had Trinidad in their top 100 ATG list. So honestly what the **** are we arguing about here? You stated something and I proved you wrong. Your opinion has been proven false.

 

So it was those fights against Reid, Vargas, Joppy and a washed up Pea that determined his ATG'ness for you? :blood atsch