Who is the greatest southpaw of all time?

when the dust settles, the Aztecs down, new world conquered, the title of greatest southpaw will only lead to one: Pacman.

 

Hagler easy. I never laughed so much when I recently saw a thread entitled 'Who wins? Prime Hagler v Prime Hopkins'!!!!!

 

Pernell, by leaps and bounds.

 

I, too, am picking Marvin Hagler.

He was just a perfect southpaw, sometimes he would switch to orthodox (still don't know why he did so) and lose rounds like in the Leonard fight.

His right jabs were his main weapon IMO. He KO'd a lot of guy with his right even though he is a left handed.

 

Marvin Haggler and Pernell Whitaker 1 and 1A, depending on the day. I tend to favor Pernell, but its hard to be solid with that pick with what Haggler did in his career.

 

I like sweat pea but can't forget camacho sr

 

or marcus beyer:good

 

Pernell Whitaker.

I won't really argue if someone wants to say Marvin Hagler, and then Pernell Whitaker, but I rank Whitaker ahead.

 

Pernell Whitaker.

 

Balboa!

Hector Camacho & Flash Elorde both deserve a mention.

 

Whitaker and Hagler seem like good shouts.

today would have to be Calzaghe, Wright and Calderon...

 

Pea and Hagler hands down.

 

thats a style thing for you right? (meaning i am seeing a patten here, slick boxer types).

just wondering that all i picked marvellious, but PW is right up there i think for everyone he was a GREAT fighter to watch.

 

I NEVER EVER thought of that before. Seriously, I never bothered to wonder who was the greatest southpaw of all time.

The first thought that came to my mind was Hagler. I didn't even think of Sweet Pea, oddly. Both are excellent choices.

On a different subject, oddly, I don't feel success at multiple weight classes is a perfect judge of one's p4p ratings. Certainly it does influence the decision making, however, Bhop is definitely high on the current p4p rankings and he only has 2 fights (one being a loss, the first of his career) at a non-middleweight weight.

A fighter may not be able to fight effectively at a certain weight. The pound for pound ranking of a fighter is not a ranking of who is the most capable of dominating different weight classes, so much as who is the greatest in whatever weight they are fighting in. For instance, certain champions are clearly better fighters at their weight class than other champions are in there weight class. Pretty Boy Floyd isn't the pound for pound best because he has belts in 5 different divisions (though, it most certainly doesn't hurt the argument, it definitely helps it) but rather, he is the pound for pound best because he is the most dominant in the weight class that he fights in (which, in PBFs case, happens to be many, which again, helps his cause.)

The reason there is an argument for Rafael Marquez and Winky Wright and Manny Pacqiaou isn't because they would be better fighting at multiple weight classes, but it is because they are better fighters at their weight than Floyd is at his (which I don't agree with, but that's the argument).

Of course, being the best fighter at your weight class, better than any other fighter in THEIR weight class, lends itself to the ability to fight well in other weight classes.

Hell, I know you know this Sweet Pea, you even said it. I just wanted to post something.

 

Pernel Whitaker & Prime Hector Camacho sr.