Who is the man at heavy...Usyk or Fury?

Fury

 

Maybe you should reply with something constructive.

 

Just pointing out the obvious. Some people just refuse to acknowledge what is right in front of their eyes.

 

Lineal? He's been holding it up for 10 years, you mean! Who has he defeated whilst being the champ in either reigns? Whyte. That's his best win. He beat nobody after he popped dirty for Wlad, and his beat win other than Whte when he beat Wilder... was Wilder.

Usyk has done in FOUR FIGHTS what Tyson took 8 YEARS to do. Wilder got pumped by Tyson when Tyson was thought of as the most feather fisted champ/top hw. And we've found out that at the elite level his power has been overrated.

Wallin, Sefferi, Scwarhz... I mean, who the **** are these guys? And one of them gave Tyson hell.

You're usually a good poster, so you've definitely had better days.

 

I genuinely can't see how beating Wilder means you're the man. We all know Wilders record was padded. It's obviously Usyk. He has most of the belts and Fury is fighting his leftovers.

 

AJ did get pasted by Ruiz prior to Usyk ever beating him. Wilder never got pasted by anyone prior to Fury beating him. These are the facts.

Belts in modern day boxing are mostly trinkets. Fury said he retired but anyone with half a brain knew he hadn't and indeed that was proven in no time at all.

If you see Usyk as the man then good for you. It's no big deal. Fair chance it will get sorted in the ring soon enough.

 

The disdain for Fury in here is eye opening.

There's every chance Fury's power has improved notably in recent years and Wilder not knocking Fury out certainly doesn't prove his power is overrated at the elite level. He certainly went damn close and has hurt him bad multiple times. Fury is like Holmes in that he has ridiculous powers of recuperation and huge heart.

 

Usyk is obviously the much greater fighter and he is understandably held in higher regard. Fury has never beaten an elite fighter in their prime. Never. Not once. And Usyk has beaten at least two such fighters and maybe even 3.

 

The thread specifically states "at heavy".

Nothing Ustk has done at cruiserweight counts for anything at all.

He's had 4 fights at heavyweight.

Usyk is obviously the greater "fighter" overall. Thet's not the debate.

Heck he might even be the best Heavyweight right now. Until he beats Fury i'll stick with Fury.

Actually, if Usyk put a clinic on Wilder i'd possibly put him forward as the man.

 

Its fact, not disdain. Sorry, but someone who was infamous for being feather fisted and for failing a test has now developed ko power because an American taught him? OK...

Wilder is the most overrated champ at heavy in our time. His first step up was against an obese Tyson and that was nearly FIFTY fights in! Usky is the man.

 

As I've said to others if you want to rate Usyk the man rate him the man. It's really no big deal.

I've laid down multiple reasons as to why i personally consider Fury the man and others are welcome to differ.

 

But he's held the division up. How can't you see that?

 

He's not the first. It's also quite cloudy as to why different fights haven't been made. Opinions are like arsoles on this one, everyone has one.

If he had time off due to personal problems so be it. Other heavyweights have held the division up at certain points. Holmes openly wouldn't fight a live body in the last years of his reign and Ali mucked around for a while as well, among others.

 

But it's two different reigns and eras he's done this in. Face it, he doesn't want the elite.

 

I don't think it's a fact at all. I see in other threads you are completely and utterly sure Fury will not fight either Joshua or Usyk.

I tell you what, let's revisit this at the end of next year. I have great doubts he is ducking either and i think he'd be much too good for Joshua.

Lets see if he fights either of these or Joyce (pretty sure you claimed he will duck him as well) by the end of 2023.

Fair?