Who Is The More Complete Fighter - Pavlik Or Kessler?

What do you think this poll would have looked like before Hopkins/Pavlik? Whatever Kellymania was, what we're getting now is downright hilarious. People jumped ship on this guy like he was the Titanic. :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

I'm not a Pavlik nuthugger in the slightest, if anything I don't really care for him, and to me he's a more complete fighter than Kessler. Of course, I don't think very highly of either guy in terms of overall packaging.

 

I can see what you're saying. In my mind there's no way you can be as slow and unathletic as Pavlik and make it this far without a fairly good overall acumen. Kessler on the other hand is 100% athlete. Totally different ends of the spectrum.

 

You make an excellent point, and I do agree - I just feel the discrepency in natural athleticism, agility, and hand and footspeed is so much in Kessler's favor it allows him to get away with certain cheats that Pavlik couldn't get away with. Pavlik's attack is alot more varied and he tends to use more angles from what I can tell. Pavlik's footwork while a great deal slower and more lumbering enables to him plant and throw hard in transition, whereas if Kessler isn't set just right not only can he not get off a good punch, sometimes he can't punch at all. Pavlik's defense is superior in my view as well. I think that if we went through each thing that each guy does we would find that Pavlik does most of it slightly better and more economically.

 

keenness and depth of perception, discernment, or discrimination especially in practical matters

 

Exactly, I agree with IntentionalButt as well. I should say too that it's a huge stretch for me to use the word "angle" when referring to Pavlik or Kessler..

 

LOL, yeah. When I first showed up I was accused me of being pro-Mexican because I picked Margarito over Cotto. Then people thought I was racist toward African/ African American fighters because I took positions against Paul Williams and Joshua Clottey, now I'm Anti-White because I've said things against Calzaghe.. Let's just cut the nonsense.