Hahaha wow , so give Oscar another chance to fight to see if he is shot ? The manny embarrassment does not count? I honestly cant understand you. You say Oscar had never looked like a dope in the ring. Well that's fair, but he DID look like a real big dope against Manny , he was OWNED worse than Trinidad was EVER OWNED. Trinidad NEVER quit, in his losses he was clearly outboxed and even in the BHOP fight he stood up like a man to try to fight after taking a beating. Oscar was crying on the floor. Heck, even washed up RJJ looked better against Calzaghe than DLH versus PAC. Even "mr shot" Tito looked BETTER after a 3 year layoff for christ's sake. So what if it was against Roy? At least Roy is a big guy, not a 135 pounder. I would like to see Oscar face guys as big as Roy, not just guys much smaller, like 2 pounds Forbes. How is losing to RJJ VIA DECISION after being inactive for THREE years and at a fat weight of 170 pounds worse than active Oscar losing to a guy who had only fought once at 135!! He jumped two divisions for crying out loud. SO what if he is the best pound for pounder in the world? There was no excuse for Oscar, he had been active and was a much bigger man. He should have knocked him down. Your argument is just silly. All you can say is "Hoya was beat by the best pound for pounder" So what? He is still VERY small for Oscar. What if Ivan Calderon was the best pound for pound fighter in the world, would it be fair for him to face Oscar then? just because of his ranking? So then your logic is that Manny Pacquiao, since he is "THE BEST P4P IN THE WORLD" would have been a TOUGHER challenge for Oscar than say , guys like Paul Williams, Cotto, or Margo, just because of the fact that the smaller PacMan ranks above them in the P4P rankings? Please come on.