Who is the most complete fighter of the game today?

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  1. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If multi-divisioned... then take their best.
    Who and the total score

    For example... Mayweather Jr.

    1-5 scale
    Power - 4 at 130
    Speed (overall movement) - 5 at 130, 135, 4 at 140, 147, and 154
    Footwork - 5
    WorkRate - 4 - at 130, 135, 140. 3 at 147, 154
    Stamina - 5
    Heart - 5
    Chin - ? (should be at least a 4)
    Boxing IQ - 5
    Hand Speed - 5
    Offense - 5 at 130, 135, 140. 4 at 147 and 3 at 154
    Defense - 5
    Consistency - 5 for the most part if not injured
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5
     
  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More clarification

    1 = crap
    2 = below avg
    3 = avg
    4 = above avg
    5 = exceptional
     
  3. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The love that you have to Floyd = 5
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let me guess, you're a fan of PBF right?
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea I am. If I am not accurate... ur welcome to correct. This is opinion base anyways...
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Actually, I agree with you. Aside from his lack of power at higher weights (which is damning, unfortunately) PBF has not shown any outstanding weaknesses.
     
  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Mikkel Kessler

    Power - 5
    Speed (overall movement) -4
    Footwork - 3
    WorkRate - 5
    Stamina - 5
    Heart - 5
    Chin - 5
    Boxing IQ - 5
    Hand Speed - 4
    Offense - 5
    Defense - 4
    Consistency - 5
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    True, but his style seems a bit one-dimensional (and he lacks several punches) when compared to Mayweather. If well-roundedness comes from technical perfection and physical preparation, I can't think of many who outdo Floyd.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not the point. The point is that everyone knows he's the best P4P fighter. The point is that you are making threads which continues to mention this fact.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Not necessarily. When Jones was the #1 P4P fighter, he lacked too many qualities (technical correctness, a jab, chin) to be labeled "complete". He was an excellent fighter, but not a complete one--instead, he used a more limited skillset honed to a razor's edge.

    Another example is Hopkins. He isn't exactly "complete" so much as extremely canny and experienced. In this case, Floyd just happens to be the most complete and the best P4P in the world.
     
  11. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    yeah except balls...oh and a chin.
     
  12. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he is also kinda low on stamina. Other than that I agree with you.
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Lack of an uppercut is also a major problem.

    He definitely has "balls" though, since he keeps getting up when he's being knocked down. Like Patterson, his problem is confidence and durability, not courage.
     
  14. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    if he has power of 5 then andrade has chin of 10
     
  15. SkillsSoSmooth

    SkillsSoSmooth Active Member Full Member

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    Better that than constantly hating on the man, it's about time his amazing talents get celebrated because people like Floyd don't come around everyday.