Who is the most complete fighter of the game today?

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  1. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    ok this is comparing floyd to whom, like bums of the world or elite fighters. I love floyd as a fighter by the way. But if floyd has a 5 for speed etc.
    then wat is zab judah, roy jones? they both have faster hands than floyd
    see wat im saying, not tryin 2 s**t on floyd b/c he is one of my fav's but jsut wanted to know
     
  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I put the ratings for 1-5 for individual's division.

    1 = poor
    2 = below avg
    3 = avg
    4 = above avg
    5 = exceptional

    Both Floyd, Zab, and Jones got exceptional hand speed. Floyd have exceptional hand speed in several punches while zab got a real fast 1-1-2. Jones can throw everything fast but they are all exceptional. 5 doesn't equal the best.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Remember, not all numbers are created equal. Yes, PBF at 130-140 had elite speed in his hands and feet. Was Jones elite at 160-175 in speed? Yup...he would be a "5" as well...but his 5 would carry more weight.
     
  4. Illstate

    Illstate Active Member Full Member

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    Prime Tyson = 5's all the way across the board.
    His style was impeccable, and his defense was impregnable.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe

    1-5 scale
    Power - 4
    Speed (overall movement) - 5
    Footwork - 5
    WorkRate - 5 Stamina - 5
    Heart - 5
    Chin - 5
    Boxing IQ - 5
    Hand Speed - 5
    Offense - 5
    Defense - 5 (so evasive, even on front foot)
    Consistency - 5 (ten years)
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5

    Counter punching - 5
    Swarming - 5
    Boxing at range - 5
    Slugging - 5
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Based on that criteria and ranking system, Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is the best/most complete fighter out there.
     
  7. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr (Prime)

    1-5 scale
    Power - 5 at 160, 168
    Speed (overall movement) - 5
    Footwork - 5
    WorkRate - 5 -
    Stamina - 5
    Heart - 5
    Chin - 4
    Boxing IQ - 5
    Hand Speed - 5
    Offense - 5
    Defense - 5
    Consistency - 5
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5
     
  8. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    Rafael mArquez

    Mikkel Kessler

    Power - 5
    Speed (overall movement) - 4.5
    Footwork - 4.5
    WorkRate - 4
    Stamina - 4
    Heart - 4.5
    Chin - 3.5
    Boxing IQ - 4
    Hand Speed - 5
    Offense - 5
    Defense - 3.5
    Consistency - 5
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    No doubt that it is Floyd!
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In what way is he more complete than Joe Calzaghe? Defence? Well Calzaghe's workrate counters that.
     
  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I forgot Durability....
    Roy Jones Jr.

    1-5 scale

    Power - 5 at middle to light heavy. 3 for heavyweight
    Speed (overall movement) - 5
    Footwork - 5
    WorkRate - 5 at middle, 4 supermiddle-lightheavy, 3 heavy
    Stamina - 5 at middle, 4 supermid-light, 3 heavy
    Heart - 4
    Chin - ? at middle, ? heavy, 3 for light heavy
    Boxing IQ - 4
    Hand Speed - 5
    Offense - 5
    Defense - 4
    Consistency - 4
    Accuracy - 5
    Timing - 5
    Durability - 4 Jones is very durable to the body but not the chin. he was at middle though
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Not really. Floyds workrate was as good as anyone in historys. At 130 that is. Lets see Calzaghes workrate when he is in his 5th division. Floyd workrate was none stop against Chavez. Chavez was throwing 100 punches a round at him and Floyd was always working. Not to mention there were rounds where Floyd would reel off 70 punches.

    Floyd whole game is better technically. His technique in regards to footwork, offence and defence is superior. Not to mention he is more skilled.
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    at his prime I got him being a 5 all across the board except for his chin. which I rated a 4. I dont think he has a china chin, he got caught with an unsuspecting good shot in one fight, the other it was just an accumulation of punches that put him down.
    at 160/168 RJ was damn near superman in the ring
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe's offence is superior.

    Calzaghe throws more varied combinations than Floyd did at any weight. Their footwork is of course completely different but equally effective and level.

    Floyd have the more text-book technique sure. But Calzaghe his opponents slaps better.

    And consider work rate. Calzaghe throws a ridiculous number of punches even weighing 168+ pounds which is just spectacular.
     
  15. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Uh... are you serious?
    Floyd is head and shoulders over Calzaghe.